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May 10, 2014 9:54 AM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada

This was a gift at the recent clinic in Oregon and I need to add it to my plant list.
It was sold to gg5 by SMG and is on their web site as a "roller"
http://www.smgsucculents.com/j...
Pretty rosettes with pointed red-tipped leaves.
and just the general info on the Jovibarba type plants. I will continue to research in
order to fill in the rest of the fields.
It is a really pretty little plant.

Marilyn Smith aka CDsSister
Please add it --- I asked Greg and he told me to go ahead and add it, but I don't know what to enter in the fields.
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May 10, 2014 10:56 AM CST
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That's @valleylynn's expertise area so we'll let her handle it. Thumbs up
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May 10, 2014 11:40 AM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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Thank You!
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May 10, 2014 11:51 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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@ValleyLynn is definitely the one who can help with this.

"Rollers" is a common name and I think but (I'm not certain) that Jovibarba is a synonym for Sempivirvum?

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May 10, 2014 12:14 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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I know she is out and about today so will wait for her reply and will hope to learn how to do it myself.
I did try but it said I had entered something wrong soo.... here I am. Can't get past first page.

Thanks again

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May 10, 2014 12:29 PM CST
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Really, Lynn needs to handle this. I see it has one of those unusual "f/" species names so I don't think any of us want to touch it. Smiling
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May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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I'm not certain if this will work but you might try the following:

Primary Common Name: Rollers

Accepted Botanical Name: Sempervivum hirta

Cultivar: Sierra Nevada


If that doesn't work Lynn will definitely be able to figure it out.
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May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Ooops ... sorry. *Blush* Lynn will definitely be able to get it in the database correctly.
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May 10, 2014 12:50 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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I can wait till she is available ....Not a problem. I had thought I would contact her directly but then went ahead and posted.
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May 10, 2014 2:09 PM CST
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It didn't accept it as Jovibarba hirta is now a synonym, it's been reclassified as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
Here is an entry so you can see what it looks like:
Rollers (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum 'from Biele Karpaty')

You can see that 'Rollers' is used for the primary Common name. Trade name is for trademarked names so wouldn't apply here.
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May 10, 2014 3:45 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
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I'll try again ... Thanks Sue
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May 10, 2014 3:50 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
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It took it with just the genus as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
and common name of Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada

But did not give me a chance to add any other data. Guess we will still wait and see what the wandering @valleylynn has to say. Hilarious! Hilarious!
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May 10, 2014 3:58 PM CST
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We'll let Lynn fix it. Thumbs up Rollers is supposed to be in the common name and the Jovibarba hirta gets added to the entry after it's created as a synonym. I think instead of the f/ she does the 'from Sierra Nevada' in the also sold as section so that it lines up correctly in the name. I don't even try to add those, they are trickier. Green Grin!
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May 10, 2014 4:01 PM CST
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No wonder the semp peeps are all confused. But am thankful for the experts who will fix us right up.
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking anything with an asterisk was a mandatory field and tried to fill it all in Hilarious!
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May 10, 2014 4:06 PM CST
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The asterisk just refers you to the note below "* An explanation of trade names and series names"
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May 10, 2014 4:08 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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See what you get when you "assume" Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 10, 2014 5:27 PM CST
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May 10, 2014 7:40 PM CST
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Just got back home. This was sure a fun thread to read. nodding

Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada would go in the the 'Also sold as:'.
Common name is: Roller
Botanical name is: Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
Cultivar name: f/ Sierra Nevada
This is not an actual cultivar, it is a species that differs from other globiferum subsp. hirtum. It is the only way we could figure out how to list them. We used to do it this way:
Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum f/Sierra Nevada. This way still makes more sense to me. Shrug!

Here it is all fixed. Can't wait to see your photos Marilyn. Hurray!
Thank you for all the help Sue, Lin and Dave. Group hug

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May 10, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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Thank You! Thank You! This one sure was a tricky one for all concerned. I appreciate all the feedback.
Everyone agreed. "Lynn will fix this" Hurray! Hurray!
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May 10, 2014 8:48 PM CST
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