Plant Database forum: Adding a plant since I do not understand what to enter in the fields

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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 9:54 AM CST
Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada

This was a gift at the recent clinic in Oregon and I need to add it to my plant list.
It was sold to gg5 by SMG and is on their web site as a "roller"
http://www.smgsucculents.com/jovibarba%20hirta%20f/sierra%20...
Pretty rosettes with pointed red-tipped leaves.
and just the general info on the Jovibarba type plants. I will continue to research in
order to fill in the rest of the fields.
It is a really pretty little plant.

Marilyn Smith aka CDsSister
Please add it --- I asked Greg and he told me to go ahead and add it, but I don't know what to enter in the fields.
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Calif_Sue
May 10, 2014 10:56 AM CST

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That's @valleylynn's expertise area so we'll let her handle it. Thumbs up
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 11:40 AM CST
Thank You!
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plantladylin
May 10, 2014 11:51 AM CST
@ValleyLynn is definitely the one who can help with this.

"Rollers" is a common name and I think but (I'm not certain) that Jovibarba is a synonym for Sempivirvum?

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Rollers&button=

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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 12:14 PM CST
I know she is out and about today so will wait for her reply and will hope to learn how to do it myself.
I did try but it said I had entered something wrong soo.... here I am. Can't get past first page.

Thanks again

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dave
May 10, 2014 12:29 PM CST

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Really, Lynn needs to handle this. I see it has one of those unusual "f/" species names so I don't think any of us want to touch it. Smiling
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plantladylin
May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST
I'm not certain if this will work but you might try the following:

Primary Common Name: Rollers

Accepted Botanical Name: Sempervivum hirta

Cultivar: Sierra Nevada


If that doesn't work Lynn will definitely be able to figure it out.
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plantladylin
May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST
Ooops ... sorry. *Blush* Lynn will definitely be able to get it in the database correctly.
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 12:50 PM CST

I can wait till she is available ....Not a problem. I had thought I would contact her directly but then went ahead and posted.



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Calif_Sue
May 10, 2014 2:09 PM CST

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It didn't accept it as Jovibarba hirta is now a synonym, it's been reclassified as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
Here is an entry so you can see what it looks like:
Rollers (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum 'from Biele Karpaty')

You can see that 'Rollers' is used for the primary Common name. Trade name is for trademarked names so wouldn't apply here.
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 3:45 PM CST

I'll try again ... Thanks Sue
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 3:50 PM CST

It took it with just the genus as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
and common name of Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada

But did not give me a chance to add any other data. Guess we will still wait and see what the wandering @valleylynn has to say. Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Calif_Sue
May 10, 2014 3:58 PM CST

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We'll let Lynn fix it. Thumbs up Rollers is supposed to be in the common name and the Jovibarba hirta gets added to the entry after it's created as a synonym. I think instead of the f/ she does the 'from Sierra Nevada' in the also sold as section so that it lines up correctly in the name. I don't even try to add those, they are trickier. Green Grin!
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 4:01 PM CST

No wonder the semp peeps are all confused. But am thankful for the experts who will fix us right up.
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking anything with an asterisk was a mandatory field and tried to fill it all in Hilarious!
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May 10, 2014 4:06 PM CST

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The asterisk just refers you to the note below "* An explanation of trade names and series names"
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 4:08 PM CST

See what you get when you "assume" Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 10, 2014 5:27 PM CST

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valleylynn
May 10, 2014 7:40 PM CST
Just got back home. This was sure a fun thread to read. nodding

Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada would go in the the 'Also sold as:'.
Common name is: Roller
Botanical name is: Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum
Cultivar name: f/ Sierra Nevada
This is not an actual cultivar, it is a species that differs from other globiferum subsp. hirtum. It is the only way we could figure out how to list them. We used to do it this way:
Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum f/Sierra Nevada. This way still makes more sense to me. Shrug!

Here it is all fixed. Can't wait to see your photos Marilyn. Hurray!
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
May 10, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Thank You! Thank You! This one sure was a tricky one for all concerned. I appreciate all the feedback.
Everyone agreed. "Lynn will fix this" Hurray! Hurray!
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May 10, 2014 8:48 PM CST

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Green Grin! Thumbs up
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