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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
May 16, 2014 3:00 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

I am pleased to announce that I have completely revamped the Recommendations feature, and it is now re-created as the ATP Book of Gardening Recommendation, or "The Book" for short. Smiling Trish doesn't love the name but she said she also doesn't hate it. I told her when she gives me a better name for it, we'll change the name. Hilarious!

Anyway, this new feature is a complete "from the ground-up" rewrite of the Recommendations feature. It acts very much like the old recommendations feature, just much better, and way more powerful. Additionally, with this new platform, we will be able to add improvements to it very quickly as we want them.

Here are some new features that are now available in The Book:

1) You're no longer restricted to just recommending ecommerce companies. You can now enter other kinds of organizations, like display/public gardens, local garden centers, garden clubs and associations.)

2) You can now edit companies!! Just like in the Plants Database, if you see an error, scroll to the bottom of the company's page, and click on "Edit this company's details" and you'll have the full range of all the checkboxes and text fields. Make your changes and submit the proposal, and a moderator (currently that's just me) will approve it and the changes will then take effect.

3) We have custom data fields for the companies, just like we do with the plant database. So, if you enter an ecommerce company (or edit an existing one) you'll find extra stuff like "What do they specialize in" and you can check off daylilies or roses or what have you. In the near future, once enough companies get edited to incorporate their extra details, I will write extra searching tools that will help you narrow your search to just rose sellers, etc.

At the moment, I don't have any custom data fields setup for public gardens, garden centers, or clubs and associations. Sometime in the future when we figure out what info we want to include, I will make it happen. Also, if we ever want to add additional categories of companies (Books, Magazines, Websites, etc) we will be able to do that.

I feel like this first step is an important milestone for ATP. We will be able to better serve the gardening industry with this feature, and I have several upcoming enhancements planned that will allow the companies to better interact directly with ATP via this feature.

So have fun and please feel free to go edit your favorite companies to check off what they specialize in!

Any questions or ideas, just ask!
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
May 16, 2014 3:51 PM CST
Name suggestion, as an alternative to the well-known book of recommendations called 'The Little Black Book'...(it used to be a 'guy-thing')

how about 'The Little Green Book'?
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Herbs Dragonflies Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry
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Bonehead
May 16, 2014 3:59 PM CST
Great start to what will undoubtedly be an evolving feature. Might I suggest the following additions to the product list: All-purpose nursery, Perennial flowers, Annual flowers, Natives, Hardscaping materials, Garden art. In the case of an all-purpose company, should we check everything we know they carry? I assume for search purposes that may be helpful. It will be fun to watch this feature grow.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
May 16, 2014 4:10 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

greene: I like your green book idea. Smiling

Bonehead: Thanks! I've added all those to the checkboxes for Main Products. You can check off all that apply.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
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plantladylin
May 16, 2014 4:45 PM CST
@Dave Wow ... you never cease to amaze us! Always so quick with improvements and additions to the site and what a wonderful re-working of the Recommendations section! Thumbs up

@greene I like the idea of The ATP Little Green Book of Recommendations! Thumbs up

Off to browse ...
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
May 16, 2014 5:21 PM CST
I like greene's idea of the little green book only I would think the big green book would be more appropriate.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
May 16, 2014 5:27 PM CST
Thank You!

I love it, and checked a few boxes.

Here are some check boxes you might add if they're widely desired:

Alpine Flower Seeds
Heirloom Vegetable Seeds
OP Vegetable Seeds
Heirloom Flower Seeds
OP Flower Seeds
Specialize in certain regions, like PNW, Southern, Northeast, cold weather / short season
possibly "oriented towards market growers and farmers"
possibly "bulk orders only" and "bulk sizes also available"

Some possible additional features:
1. Ability to search for the company name, or jump to the first letter..
The "search" dialog box currently searches all ATP.

2 A filter to display only companies that have XYZ or ABC or DEF checked as "specialize in".
A frill would be to then list them in order of how many of the desirable boxes they had checked.


This might be too cryptic, and a reference to "The Yellow Pages" might not make sense to the Google Generation, but I;m going to think of this as "The Green Pages".

OMG, TGP at ATP !!!
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Name: Juli
(Zone 5b)
Region: United States of America Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Daylilies Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Birds Hummingbirder Butterflies Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Master Level
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daylily
May 16, 2014 5:32 PM CST
Thank you Dave!!!
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

Green Grin!

How about "All Things Recommended" or something like that...?

Can't wait to take a look!

I never added many things to the Recommendations before, because I found it rather hard to navigate. So glad you were open to updating it!

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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
Garden today. Clean next week.
Garden Procrastinator Region: Colorado Heucheras Region: Southwest Gardening Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sempervivums Annuals Foliage Fan Herbs Garden Ideas: Level 2
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CDsSister
May 16, 2014 5:43 PM CST
RickCorey said:
This might be too cryptic, and a reference to "The Yellow Pages" might not make sense to the Google Generation, but I;m going to think of this as "The Green Pages".


I like Green Pages too. But I am just excited for the wonderful upgrade.

Could it be a contest to Name with prize of acorns?
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals
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Dutchlady1
May 16, 2014 6:19 PM CST
I love 'the Green Pages', or 'The Big Green Book'
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
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greene
May 16, 2014 7:34 PM CST
Thank You! If we vote, I will choose 'The Big Green Book' as my first choice and 'All Things Recommended' as a close second choice.
I am sure that @dave will make the best decision. Thumbs up

Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Herbs Dragonflies Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry
Birds Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Plant Identifier
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Bonehead
May 16, 2014 9:07 PM CST
Green pages resonates for me - being of the generation where yellow pages was the norm.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
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greene
May 17, 2014 5:25 AM CST
@Bonehead, that's even better! Whistling Whistling Let your fingers do the walking through The Green Pages.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
May 17, 2014 7:52 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Trish liked the Green Pages so we'll go with that. Thumbs up Thanks Rick!!
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
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greene
May 17, 2014 8:23 AM CST
Hurray! RickCorey and his Green Pages.
Hurray! @Trish for approving.
Hurray! @dave inventing/improving ATP to keep us on our toes.

(Sorry, I'm a little punchy at the moment, no coffee yet...and Hurray! for my daughter who had a spare key for my house as I just spent an hour weeding while I was locked out of my own home by mistake.)
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Plant Database Moderator Forum moderator Aroids Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
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eclayne
May 17, 2014 10:01 AM CST

Plants Admin

Nice going. This will be fun and useful. I looked for The Book and found The Green Pages. Thumbs up Thumbs up What happened to the little butterfly next to it? Green Grin!
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
May 17, 2014 11:04 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

The butterfly is a new feature. It generally lands on the name of the feature you're currently using. So if you're inside the green pages the butterfly will be there.
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals
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Dutchlady1
May 17, 2014 11:05 AM CST
Always full of whimsy!! Thumbs up
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
May 17, 2014 11:12 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Thumbs up
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Plant Database Moderator Forum moderator Aroids Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
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eclayne
May 17, 2014 11:57 AM CST

Plants Admin

Thank You!
Evan

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