Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Is this Silverine?

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Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
Jun 29, 2014 3:16 PM CST
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I bought this semp labeled as Silverine. I just wanted to make sure that it is before I posted it to the database. It is in an area that receives only morning sun.

When it was tiny it looked exactly like

but the more it ages, the less it looks like Silverine. Could it have been labeled incorrectly or is it within the possibility of Silverine due to the environmental conditions? I have another one near the same area that was labeled as Silverine (from the same company) and it is slowly changing into this look as well.

Any help is appreciated! Hurray!

Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 29, 2014 5:41 PM CST

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It looks like it could be J.C.

@JungleShadows know this semp. Let's have him look at your photo and see what he thinks.
Name: J.c. S.
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StaticAsh
Jun 29, 2014 6:48 PM CST
Thanks, I'll be curious as to what he has to say. Thumbs up
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gg5
Jun 29, 2014 8:32 PM CST
The leaves look too pointy to me, but that's just me, I am curious how Kevin will respond!! Thumbs up
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Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
Jun 29, 2014 8:41 PM CST
Yeah, I thought so too, but wasn't sure if very low light (only morning sun) would make them elongate?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 29, 2014 10:49 PM CST

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Low light can make leaves become longer. And stress can make the tips red.
Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
Jun 30, 2014 12:22 AM CST
Wow thanks! I just guessed that is how semps etiolated. Sticking tongue out Kind of surprised I was right...

I went back and found the arrival pics of the Silverine in question. It was one of these six. (Unless I somehow mislabeled it. I don't think that happened though since all other semps are accounted for.)
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jun 30, 2014 10:56 AM CST
Doesn't look right to me. Should not have any tip color. it is ALL SILVER.

Kevin
Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
Jun 30, 2014 4:43 PM CST
Thanks Kevin! @JungleShadows
So it's impossible under any conditions for a semp with tip color to be Silverine? Stress can't make the tips red as Lynn suggested?

Thanks again,
J.C.
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jun 30, 2014 4:56 PM CST
JC, Have never seen tips just appear. 'Silverine' is VERY naked though and I've seen LOTS of that plant.The clump in my rock garden is definitely stressed and NO tips.

The color of your plant looks wrong too, not really silver. With 'Silverine' there is no mistake.

Kevin
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Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
Jun 30, 2014 4:58 PM CST
Okay thanks!
It's officially going to the NOID list.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 30, 2014 8:16 PM CST

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Kevin, can you post us a photo of your Silverine?
Name: J.c. S.
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StaticAsh
Jun 30, 2014 9:12 PM CST
Yes please. It's now got me wondering about a couple photos in the database. Shrug!
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springcolor
Jul 1, 2014 12:02 AM CST
Patty took this beautiful picture at Kevin's during the clinic.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 1, 2014 6:57 AM CST

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Thank you Julia for bringing Patty's photo up for us. And thank you Patty for such a lovely photo of Silverine.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 1, 2014 9:52 AM CST
Thumbs up I just remembered because it was nice to see it after the clinic. It is a beautiful Semp!
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jul 1, 2014 12:45 PM CST
Patty's picture is very accurate. When grown more lushly it will form more of a lotus-style rosette and you see more of the silver. The most extreme seedling from it I named 'Silver Song'. It is colored like 'Silverine' but the leaves are much wider and it has peach flush at times and is very lotus-formed. If it blooms this season I hope to use it with some other colors as I think that form is very attractive.

Kevin

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