Plant ID forum: Shrub ID please.

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 5, 2014 6:03 PM CST
I am hoping you can ID this small shrub from this photo.
Thumb of 2014-08-06/valleylynn/2c15c3

Edited to add the identity of this plant.
Lonicera nitida
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 5, 2014 7:22 PM CST
Sort of looks like a Dwarf youpon holly to me Lynn. Can you get a close up of the leaves?
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 5, 2014 9:48 PM CST
I won't be able to get another photos until I go to Salem again.
I tried cropping to enlarge leaf detain. Still not very good.
The leaves don't match Yaupon Holly. The leaf edges are smooth.

Oops, forgot to add the close up.
Thumb of 2014-08-06/valleylynn/87bc2e

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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Aug 5, 2014 9:56 PM CST
Mexican Heather??
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 5, 2014 10:04 PM CST
I checked that one out Cheryl. Beautiful plant, but the leaves and growth habit don't appear to be the same, and the Mexican Heather isn't suppose to be completely harder in my zone 8.
This is a very tough shrub.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 6, 2014 9:05 AM CST
Cotoneaster would seem to fit, although my first thought was Lonicera.

http://www.lazyssfarm.com/Plants/Shrubs/Cl-It%20Shrubs/Cl-It...

Cotoneaster has alternate leaves, Lonicera has opposite leaves.

On the right is Lonicera pileata (Box-leaved Honeysuckle) with opposite leaves held at 45 degrees to the twig.


http://drmgoeswild.com/cotoneaster-or-not/

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Lonicera+pileata&source=ln...



Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 6, 2014 12:59 PM CST
That is looking more like the shrub in question. Thank you Janet. I will go into Salem and get better photos for comparison.
When I think about the growth pattern these young plants are starting to exhibit it seems this might be a match.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 6, 2014 1:41 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Smiling

You can see berries formed on the close up Lynn, see if they turn purple later.

Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 6, 2014 2:40 PM CST
Boy, you have good eyes Janet! I can't see any berries even after you pointed it out.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 6, 2014 2:53 PM CST
Does this help Ann? They look like berries to me. Hilarious!

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 6, 2014 2:57 PM CST
They sort of look like leaves that are browning at the tips to me. See below & to the right there is a leaf browning at the tip?
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 6, 2014 3:06 PM CST
I think they are a bit too round for leaves, and they are sat on top of the stem where leaves are on the sides of the stems at an angle.

http://www.zahradyart.cz/fotoalbum/galerie-rostlin/listnate-...

Notice in the photo in the link the 'cap' which must have been on top of a berry, you can see a ring near the top of another berry where there was a cap.

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 6, 2014 4:45 PM CST
Hurray! I will check that out next trip to Salem. Thumbs up
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Aug 6, 2014 5:18 PM CST
Just checking on this thread. Can you tell us where you saw these plants/shrubs? Were they in someones private garden or in the landscaping of a business property? If the latter, sometimes a phone call to the business to ask who did their landscaping may lead you to the answer.

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 6, 2014 7:50 PM CST
It is new landscaping for the Cremains Memorial at OSH in Salem. I have to make an inventory of all the plants as a final report towards completely this project. I know all the plants except this one. It looks so familiar to me, but the door to that memory will not open. Sad
Wish I would have thought about taking several close up photos.
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Aug 6, 2014 8:15 PM CST
What did the vendor list it as on his statement? If there was no statement involved, perhaps you could contact the vendor/supplier and ask.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 6, 2014 8:46 PM CST
The artist for the project are contacting the vendor because they didn't know name of many of the plants. I just need the name of the plant to complete the report. It will have to wait I guess.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 19, 2014 11:31 PM CST
Mystery solved. I went back today for a closer look. No berries to be found. It turns out to be Lonicera nitida.
Thank you to all that helped.

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