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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Aug 9, 2014 6:10 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Have you ever noticed when you go to your bank's website, or paypal, or some other website that has sensitive information, that there is a lock icon next to the web address? On Chrome it looks a little like this:

Thumb of 2014-08-09/dave/5a1c05

That lock means that your connection to that website is encrypted and protected from being intercepted by bad guys. That's why it's safe to send your credit card information to an ecommerce store if the lock icon is present.

Most websites (like ATP) don't use encryption if there are no financial details being sent. The data is always sent in the clear and can theoretically be eavesdropped on by governments and others.

There is a movement afoot to try to make encryption the norm across the entire web, and as a web developer I applaud the idea. Privacy is a good thing and I'm going to do my part by moving ATP to a fully encrypted site. I'll be migrating it over the coming week, and with luck nobody should notice a thing. Eventually you'll just automatically notice the green lock icon in your browser when you visit ATP. When that happens, you can feel good knowing that absolutely nobody can see what is being sent back and forth between your browser and the ATP website.

I mention it now to give a heads-up to everyone, in case there are any issues that arise from this code change, you'll know where they came from.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Aug 9, 2014 6:45 AM CST
Thanks, Dave. It's nice to know you're always looking out for the best interest of all of us.
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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Butterflies Region: Texas I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member Annuals Garden Sages
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lovemyhouse
Aug 9, 2014 7:37 AM CST
But the content we post will still be publicly visible? Clarifying, not complaining. Kind of like that it is visible.
If you don't ask, the answer is always 'no.'
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Aug 9, 2014 7:55 AM CST
Thumbs up
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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Aug 9, 2014 8:35 AM CST
This is a good thing. Hurray!

Many of us quite innocently post things like 'we will be on vacation' or will be at a wedding or funeral without thinking who may be reading.
When I worked security (before computers Rolling on the floor laughing ) we were taught that criminals read the society pages of the newspaper to find out which houses would be empty and easy to rob.

With Dave at the helm we can feel secure and chit-chat more freely about many things, including plants.
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Aug 9, 2014 8:40 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Actually, to clarify: the site will continue to be 100% visible to everyone just as it is now. Your transactions between the site and ATP will be encrypted.

Here are the details of how it works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Secure
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I sent a postcard to Randy! Region: United States of America
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vic
Aug 9, 2014 8:41 AM CST
Will you be doing this on Cubits as well?
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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Calif_Sue
Aug 9, 2014 9:34 AM CST

Plants Admin

How refreshing, giving a heads-up to everyone! Green Grin! Whistling
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Aug 9, 2014 10:23 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

For the time being, I'm actually only planning to do this for ATP and none of my other sites.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Aug 9, 2014 12:42 PM CST
Wonderful new addition to ATP Dave. Thumbs up
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Aug 11, 2014 2:55 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

I just made the switch for everyone so you should be using HTTPS on ATP right now. Look up at your URL bar and you should now see a green lock icon next to our website address. If you see the green lock, you can relax and feel good knowing that your communications back and forth with ATP are no longer being sent in the clear and nobody can ever eavesdrop on what you do here on ATP. As always, stuff you post to the public places of the site (forums, blogs, etc) are, of course, visible to anyone who comes.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
Cottage Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Bee Lover Butterflies Birds
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Calif_Sue
Aug 11, 2014 2:57 PM CST

Plants Admin

A pretty green lock! Green Grin!
My gardening Blog!
Hand sewn wares and vintage finds in my Etsy store. Summer Song Cottage
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Aug 11, 2014 3:04 PM CST
Firefox just has a plain gray lock. But it is there. Green Grin!
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
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gingin
Aug 11, 2014 3:59 PM CST
I have a green leaf in front of the https.
Each cloud has a silver lineing if only you look for it.
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Aug 11, 2014 4:18 PM CST

Plants Admin

Thank You! Dave, Thumbs up
Evan
Name: Jeanie
Minnesota (Zone 4a)
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foraygardengirl
Aug 11, 2014 4:41 PM CST
Thanks Dave, and good job on a seamless transition!
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Aug 11, 2014 6:44 PM CST

Plants Admin

I think it's going to require a little modification of my habits. In the past, I could compose a response, go to another spot on the site without creating a new tab (to check on some information, for instance), and use the back button to get back to my response before sending it. Now the response is gone when I go back, and sometimes the use of the back button brings up a message saying that my browser does not recreate sensitive documents. I'll just have to learn to open new tabs wherever I go. Smiling
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
Forum moderator Hybridizer Region: Pacific Northwest Lilies Sempervivums Sedums
Pollen collector I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
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pardalinum
Aug 11, 2014 6:58 PM CST
That happened to me while composing a reply on the lily forum. There was an option to "Try Again" and that brought up my "Post a reply" box with everything still intact. Give that a try next time.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Aug 11, 2014 7:00 PM CST

Plants Admin

Thank you, Connie. I will try that next time. Smiling This time, I freaked out instead.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Aug 11, 2014 7:17 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

That only works if you clicked Preview or otherwise submitted the form, and you can't rely on it to work every time!

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