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Jun 25, 2015 5:58 AM CST

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"a grafted plant will be at least a year ahead of a rooted cutting in development".
because the rootstock has an already developed root system vs. a cutting which has to make its own roots.
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Jun 25, 2015 6:06 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I understand that statement. Thumbs up
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jun 25, 2015 8:04 AM CST
San Diego (Zone 10a)
Region: California Plumerias Roses
The reason I grafted those cuttings was because I found them and they were black and mushy so I decided to try my first grafting project! Didn't want to lose that plant!
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Jun 27, 2015 9:28 AM CST
Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Maybe I'm dense or something but I'm still not understanding the benefit of all that work in grafting a Plumeria if it's just to be a 'year ahead' of a simple rooting.

When I bought a 'grafted' gardenia I was told it was grafted because the variety of the root stock was hardy and disease resistant, and it was grafted to a scion (the top part, right?) variety that had bigger, more fragrant flowers.....so I understand that, it makes sense to me. Grafting is done to make the whole plant hardier and give it great flowers...

Back to the Plumeria...is it done simply to multiply the plants? If the root stock isn't growing the way you want it to...why would you graft something else to it...and why wouldn't it 'stunt' the growth of what you graft to it? Does the scion fundamentaly change the root stock so it will grow better?

Sorry, I'm still confused! Confused
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Jun 27, 2015 10:35 AM CST
San Diego (Zone 10a)
Region: California Plumerias Roses
The main reason to graft Plumeria cuttings are:

Grafted cuttings can have a fully functional root system within 10-14 days. Rooting a cutting can take 4-8 weeks for new roots to form.

A grafted plant allows us to take a cutting and place it onto an established root system.

The growth of a grafted plant will be at minimum of one-year ahead of a rooted cutting plant.

You can leave Inflorescence on grafted cuttings. An Inflorescence left on newly rooting cuttings will slow down the development of the roots.

A grafted cutting will bloom sooner and produce more blooms than a newly rooted cutting.

A grafted bloom will be a normal flower. Newly rooted cuttings will often produce an inferior flower, called a root bloom.

Rare and hard to find Plumeria are more likely to be difficult to root from a cutting.

A single Plumeria tree can have multiple varieties grafted onto it forming a multi variety tree.
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Jun 27, 2015 1:35 PM CST
Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
Tropicals Plumerias Orchids Garden Photography Birds Garden Art
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Very Interesting Mark. THANK YOU for clarifying for me! Thank You!
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Jul 9, 2015 6:58 AM CST
San Diego (Zone 10a)
Region: California Plumerias Roses
Well, about 3 weeks into my grafting project and I think we have a small sign of life!!!
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It's clawing out a little bit.. Hurray! Hurray!
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Jul 9, 2015 7:04 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that could be stored energy in the cutting. Patience, grasshopper Hilarious!
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Jul 9, 2015 7:33 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I was going to comment, but I knew Hetty would know best. For my grafting efforts, it is more common than not to see growth of those terminal leaves long before there is any graft union. I have even had flowering during graft-union failure.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 9, 2015 8:17 AM CST
San Diego (Zone 10a)
Region: California Plumerias Roses
Confused Blinking nodding Blinking Blinking Hilarious! Hilarious! Blinking Blinking
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Jul 9, 2015 8:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Like rooting, you need to be patient.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 9, 2015 8:56 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
I'm closing this thread. If we want to chat about grafting and our results let's start a new thread; this is a sticky thread with general information. Thanks!

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