Plant Database forum: parent entry for Yucca filamentosa

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Name: D Brawner
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dbrawner
Aug 12, 2014 11:37 AM CST
Adam's Needle (Yucca filamentosa)
seems general enough
varieties - 'color guard', 'bright edge', 'golden sword', 'hofer blue', 'variegata'
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 12, 2014 11:47 AM CST
dbrawner: Are you asking for a general entry for Yucca?

We have a general entry for Yucca filamentosa and separate entries for the different cultivars of Y. filamentosa:

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=yucca+filamentosa...

Edited to add: I get really confused with some database entries having a "Parent" plant while others have a "General" entry. I'd think cultivation methods would be the same for all of the Y. filamentosa species, so should photo's go here Adam's Needle (Yucca filamentosa) if we don't know a particular cultivar name?



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dave
Aug 12, 2014 11:49 AM CST

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He is asking for this so that all the data details from Adam's Needle (Yucca filamentosa) get copied down to all the cultivars that match the species.
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plantladylin
Aug 12, 2014 11:54 AM CST
@Dave: Thank You! I'm old and get confused quite often.
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Name: D Brawner
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dbrawner
Aug 12, 2014 11:58 AM CST
Yeah sorry if i didn't word it correctly.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 12, 2014 12:00 PM CST
D: It's not you, really ... it's my old brain. Green Grin!
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 12, 2014 12:17 PM CST

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You're doing it right, D. Thumbs up
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plantladylin
Aug 12, 2014 12:19 PM CST
And, a good request it is ... having all pertinent info copied to all cultivars of that species.

Edited to add: dbrawner, I've sent you acorns in thanks for your suggestion.
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 1:48 PM CST

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Thanks for the proposal D. Much of the data in the Yucca filamentosa entry can be copied to it's cultivars, but not all. Generally plant dimensions, leaf and/or flower color, sometimes even hardiness, etc. aren't the same for all. Given the shear number of possibilities I believe Parent Plant status for a species plant should happen very rarely, if at all. We do have the ability to add data to multiple plants of the same species however. Let me lay out the possible data points which apply to all.
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 1:51 PM CST

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How does this look?

General Plant Information:
Plant Habit: Cactus/Succulent
Life cycle: Perennial
Sun Requirements: Full Sun
Water Preferences: Mesic
Dry Mesic
Dry
Minimum cold hardiness: Zone 4a -34.4 °C (-30 °F) to -31.7 °C (-25 °F)
Maximum recommended zone: Zone 9b
Plant Height: 3 feet tall, 5 feet in bloom
Plant Spread: 4 feet

Leaves: Evergreen
Flowers: Showy
Flower Color: White
Flower Time: Summer
Inflorescence Height: 5 feet
Foliage Mound Height: 3 feet

Suitable Locations: Xeriscapic
Uses: Provides winter interest
Edible Parts: Seeds or Nuts
Fruit
Flowers
Eating Methods: Cooked
Wildlife Attractant: Bees
Butterflies
Hummingbirds
Resistances: Deer Resistant
Rabbit Resistant
Drought tolerant
Propagation: Other methods: Division
Offsets
Miscellaneous: Tolerates poor soil
Monocarpic

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dave
Aug 12, 2014 1:53 PM CST

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eclayne said:We do have the ability to add data to multiple plants of the same species however.


What is this ability? I have some plans to program a feature to allow this to happen without using the parent plant feature but I don't want to duplicate a feature that I may have already created.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 1:57 PM CST

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Dave, I should have noted that Admins and Plant Admins have this tool: Add a data checkbox to specified plants
I this Case Yucca filamentosa.
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 1:57 PM CST

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And a sweet tool it is that you've designed.
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dave
Aug 12, 2014 2:11 PM CST

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I had completely forgotten about that tool.
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 2:23 PM CST

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Big Grin These are done! Lot of data points too. Thumbs up
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 12, 2014 2:27 PM CST

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Nice job, Evan, thank you! Thumbs up

I expect @dbrawner will have more of these in the coming days. I am thinking of making a tool where any member can submit a proposal for an entire data collection (just like you would for a single plant) that covers a range of plants like the admin tool you're talking about. It would go into moderation where the admins see it, possibly edit it, and approve it.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 12, 2014 2:46 PM CST

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That sounds like a good tool Dave. Especially with the ability to edit available. I was just informed I added a Minimum cold hardiness of 9b. *Blush*

Hopefully members will be patient as verifying 6 or 7 plants is fairly straight forward. Verifying data for a species with huge numbers of varieties is time consuming.
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Aug 13, 2014 10:24 AM CST

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dave said:I had completely forgotten about that tool.


Hilarious! Sorry, but this sounds like me forgetting all kinds of things, on a daily basis, it's called 'senior moment' I believe, I cold be wrong though, I forget. Whistling
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 13, 2014 11:08 AM CST

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My memory definitely isn't razor sharp!

Evan, I worked all morning on the tool. Since the members at large will have access to it, I'm moving slowly and cautiously in building it. But it's going to be REALLY nice when it's done!
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 13, 2014 11:53 AM CST

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Super!!

One feature of the existing tool is a check box associated with the write box not being displayed to fill in. If this functionality goes forward then it might be best to not display these choices.

ex. Leaves;
other; write-box. wouldn't be displayed as a choice
Evan

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