Plant Database forum: parent entry for Pyrus pyrifolia (Asian Pear)

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Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 12, 2014 4:57 PM CST
There seem to be 18 cultivars currently in ATP.
'Raja','Korean Giant','Yoinashi','Ichiban', 'Shinsui','Yakumo', 'Ya Li','Tsu Li','Siegyoku', 'Kikusui', 'Ishiiwase', 'Olympic', 'Shinko','Twentieth Century', 'Hosui', 'Shinseiki', 'Chojuro','Nijisseiki'.

A little off topic but chill hours might be something useful to maybe add to the DB in the future.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 12, 2014 5:43 PM CST

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I have wondered if we should ever make a parent plant that covers all pears, like we do with apples.
Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 12, 2014 7:30 PM CST
i was surprised there wasn't one. Got some pear hater on ATP ;-)

Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 12, 2014 7:32 PM CST

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I think the issue is that with apples all the edibles ones fall nicely under Malus domestica, but not so with Pyrus since the edibles we're looking for fall under numerous species.

But if we put together a list of all the species we care about, I can make a parent plant that matches just a certain list of species and then anything not listed doesn't fall under its purview.
Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 12, 2014 7:56 PM CST
Yeah and marking something that you "can eat" doesn't always have to mean that you "care to eat". So I say for pears as long as there isn't some toxicity then it can still be under the umbrella of edible. There are many apple cultivars that you wouldn't want to eat raw but make a great cider.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 13, 2014 9:11 AM CST

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Not sure if this will be helpful, but a gross search of World Economic Plants in GRIN for Common name: "Pear" yielded this list of Pyrus.

Pyrus betulifolia Bunge (birch-leaf pear)
Pyrus √óbretschneideri Rehder (Chinese white pear, white pear)
Pyrus calleryana Decne. (Bradford pear, callery pear)
Pyrus communis L. (pear)
Pyrus communis subsp. pyraster (L.) Ehrh. (wild pear)
Pyrus cordata Desv. (Plymouth pear)
Pyrus √ónivalis Jacq. (snow pear)
Pyrus pashia Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don (Himalayan pear)
Pyrus pyrifolia var. culta (Makino) Nakai (Asian pear, Chinese pear, Chinese sand pear, Japanese pear, nashi pear, Oriental pear, sand pear)
Pyrus salicifolia Pall. (willow-leaf pear)
Pyrus √ósinkiangensis T. T. Yu (Xinjiang pear)
Pyrus spinosa Forssk. (almond-leaf pear)
Pyrus ussuriensis Maxim. (Harbin pear, Manchurian pear, Ussuri pear, Ussurian pear)
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 13, 2014 9:12 AM CST

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I feel like Pyrus calleryana wouldn't belong in an "edible pears" parent plant.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 13, 2014 9:20 AM CST

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I wonder if they include it in the list because it's used as graft stock for Asian Pears. Pea sized bitter fruit...yum.
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?30463
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 13, 2014 9:21 AM CST

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Well I just learned something. I didn't know they were used as rootstocks.
Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 13, 2014 10:01 AM CST
http://practical-parsimony.blogspot.com/2011/04/eating-bradf...
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 13, 2014 10:18 AM CST

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Ok, I learned something else.

I have a wild Pyrus calleryana growing on my property and I'll taste the fruits when they are ready.

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