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ATP Podcast #72: Heading into Fall

By dave
October 1, 2014

This is it! We made it! It's fall and that means a whole world of activities around the garden. Today we'll talk about our favorite parts of fall and what kinds of things you might want to do in your garden during this early fall season.

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Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Toni
Oct 2, 2014 1:14 PM CST
Oh Dave and Trish this is my new most favorite episode if my favorite podcast! Group hug I love the fall season, mulching, cover crops, and learning how to overwinter. I am just getting serious about growing garlic. I ordered a large quantity from our very own Dr Dawg, instead of plunking a little toe here and there. It is all so fun. Thank you for the wonderful entertainment, inspiration, motivation, and learning opportunities Group hug
Toni
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Oct 2, 2014 1:40 PM CST

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Thank you!!! Smiling
Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Oct 3, 2014 5:13 AM CST
I think I will try growing garlic! I never knew that it grew through the winter and I love garlic in my dishes Smiling

We have a huge oak tree and the leaves fall all over a lot of my flower beds. A wonderful natural mulch for winter and fertilizer too!

I really enjoyed listening to the podcast. I always learn something!
Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Toni
Oct 3, 2014 2:07 PM CST
I bought some annual ryegrass and am trying to get it planted on my garden area. I have read that it can be troublesome if not cut down at the right time so I am a little Leary.
Toni
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Oct 3, 2014 2:08 PM CST

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Yes, we definitely get it coming up all the time!
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Region: Oregon Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Herbs Beekeeper
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Toni
Oct 3, 2014 5:11 PM CST
I wonder if it can or would choke out that darn wire grass that just consumes ALL SPACES. it sends runners underground and gets into everything. I am trying to get rid of it but haven't found the trick yet Shrug!
Toni
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Oct 3, 2014 5:12 PM CST

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Planting things like this is definitely one strategy for choking out other things. Will it work is a separate question!
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Region: Oregon Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Herbs Beekeeper
Permaculture Composter Canning and food preservation Bee Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Toni
Oct 3, 2014 5:21 PM CST
Ha ha is that a classic disclaimer Rolling on the floor laughing
Well, what has your experience been with annual ryegrass in garden areas - not livestock pastures?
Toni
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Oct 3, 2014 7:57 PM CST

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The annual ryegrass grows extremely thickly and out competes everything, including the desirables. When it gets into the ornamental gardens it is a weed, but thankfully it's fairly easy to control. The video we posted last summer of a two-person weeding job: most of those weeds were actually annual ryegrass!!!

But we love it in the chicken pens over winter, and of course in the pasture. I have in the past covered entire vegetable gardens with it over winter with great results but I don't grow large traditional vegetable garden plots anymore.
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Region: Oregon Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Herbs Beekeeper
Permaculture Composter Canning and food preservation Bee Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Toni
Oct 5, 2014 9:58 AM CST
@dave Thank you ~ I did watch the video last summer. It looked a little labor intensive to me. I think I may try it in little patches.... I am thinking it can’t be as hard to control as the wire grass I have trying to take over all of my garden.... Shrug!
I wonder if I can weed eat it down to kill it but leave the roots?
Toni
I aspire to be the person my dog thinks I am
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Oct 5, 2014 10:52 AM CST

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I don't have wiregrass here so I can't make that comparison. But the ryegrass isn't that bad. We can and do mow it and it often does not recover from a simple mowing. In the weeding example, we weeded it out because we wanted it completely gone so we could garden in that spot.

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