Bulbs forum: Non-seeding alliums

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Oct 3, 2014 12:12 PM CST
I have only tried alliums a couple times and both were failures - reseeding profusely to a very boring onion plant rather than the featured bulb. I don't recall either name, although one was a really curly headed variety and I think the other was some sort of a drumstick. I'm still pulling onion babies a good 4 years later. All I can think is I must have planted hybrids that don't come true to seed. I would like to try some again. What has been your experience with alliums? I'd like a medium headed drumstick that will multiply reasonably but not scatter seed from here to forever.
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ge1836
Oct 3, 2014 12:59 PM CST
Deb. I have grown a few varieties.
This one blooms close to the ground with big dramatic leaves

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This is a tall drumstick, it does multiply dispite deadheading

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I grew Purple Sensation which has slowly disappeared after a few seasons

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I also had Giant Allium two seasons and they were gone


I also wasted a big sum of money on Silver Spring. It didnt appear again after one season. I believe my soil was too moist in the area where I put them

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Globemasters didnt last either

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I tried Forlock because it was so unusual. I dug them after the first year because they were listed as 34 inches but mine wrer about 50

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Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Oct 3, 2014 6:43 PM CST
JoAnn, are the tall drumsticks the only ones that have been good perennials for you? I tried A. nigrum a few years ago, and they lasted 3 or 4 years, but nothing after that. I'm pretty sure it wasn't too much moisture for them (the drainage is good, and it's on a slope).

Deb, I've never planted any bulbous Alliums that reseeded, but your mention of the hair Allium reminded me of something I do find and pull out of the garden a lot, that sure don't look like any of the wildlings I've ever seen around here. I had wondered if my friend who lived in this house before me had planted some hair Allium. I don't find them attractive at all, and they've been a real pain.
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Oct 7, 2014 7:36 AM CST
My tall drumsticks are in their third year.They spread like mad. I even like them before they bloom just the sticks nodding in with other plants.
The only drumstick I was immediately disappointed in was the Forelock ( J.Scheepers ) the color wasnt very great and they were too tall for the only space I had for them.
There is a new variety of this "topknot " type Red Mohican. BUT now that I see a full spectrum of images for it ,it looks like Forelock, which was too brown for my taste.
https://www.google.com/search?q=allium+red+mohican&client=fi...
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janwax
Oct 11, 2014 1:55 PM CST
Hi, new to this thread. I'm planting alliums this year in my iris beds, and have had
differing planting instructions. One said plant 8 " deep - others said 3". Also, I'm wondering
if keeping them in the fridge for a month or more to cold-treat them is absolutely necessary.
I'm in 9b, N.CA.
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Oct 11, 2014 2:51 PM CST
Three inch holes sounds like the smaller alliums like Jennine. Deep holes are for Globemaster.

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