Here is a pic. The the leaf on the left was a cryptanthus (or cryptabergia). It is in the ugly strawberry planter I made from dog food bag, lol. The large philo leaves are around 8 inches long and 3 wide (just guestimating as I put the plant back up). The growth point was removed from the bigger growth before I got it, so it is starting the smaller vine. I am curious if this type of vine will make the big thick stems on it's own or what growing conditions can I provide to encourage it. I plant to give it something to climb, I think today :). Sometimes I forget, I should write a list, lol. I actually should give support to a few plants. Thank you for looking.