Aroids forum: A red leafed Philodendron "selloum"?

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Name: LariAnn Garner
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LariAnn
Nov 26, 2010 10:41 PM CST

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I grew this plant from a seed that was supposed to be from P. saxicola. It is definitely not that species, but what is it? Surely a hybrid, and maybe one of the parents is a plant I have long sought - a red-leafed P. bipinnatifidum, or "selloum". What do you think?
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Name: LariAnn Garner
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LariAnn
Nov 26, 2010 10:42 PM CST

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Here's another shot of a different leaf emerging.
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Name: Taylor
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Taylor696
Nov 28, 2010 3:52 PM CST
I have never seen a P.bipinnatifidum with red leaves, or any red in the petioles like that one. Is there possibly some P.xanadu in it?

Keep us updated, that is interesting! Thumbs up
Name: LariAnn Garner
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LariAnn
Nov 28, 2010 9:02 PM CST

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It could be the other way around - that the P. xanadu is a dwarf sport of a plant related to this one . . . The P. xanadu has blood-red spathes but the new leaves are not nearly so red as this one.
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Name: Taylor
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Taylor696
Nov 28, 2010 9:30 PM CST
Do you have a picture of a mature leaf?
And has this plant ever bloomed?

I always thought that the P.xanadu was a pure species not a sport of a species.
Here is a picture of the original P.xanadu used for the description- http://zachandchristie.com/plant_pics/trips/rainforest/xanad...
My P.xanadu is the tissue cultured one, I thought that it is just the chemicals that made the plant small?

But either way, if you can propagate more of these plants put me on the list.
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Name: LariAnn Garner
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LariAnn
Nov 28, 2010 10:02 PM CST

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To me, the P. xanadu has all of the characteristics of a polyploid sport: dwarfism, small and numerous leaves, and very infrequent blooming, if any. The plant can still be a species and yet be a sport of the normal or diploid form of the species. Generally, good TC technique is not going to cause a plant to deform or become dwarf. If it does, the technique used is not good or the tissue being used is too "old". By "old", I mean too many clones have been derived through too many multiplications in vitro, resulting in increased mutations, somaclonal variation and loss of the original morphotype. When that starts happening, a reputable lab will begin a culture anew with fresh tissue from the original mother plant.
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Name: LariAnn Garner
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LariAnn
Nov 28, 2010 10:06 PM CST

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Oh, and this plant has not yet bloomed. The mature leaves show very little coloration, but even other philos with bright red new leaves end up with green leaves having just a hint of red. I have hybrids with distinctive red main veins but the emerging leaves are not reddish at all. That observation, plus what you see here, is why I'm sure there is a true red leaved selloum out there. I'm going to try to bring it back out from this plant if I can.
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Name: Taylor
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Taylor696
Nov 29, 2010 3:50 PM CST
This makes sense, but then where would P.xanadu get the blood red spathe with the chubby spadix?

I am really interested to see what you do with this red leafed plant.
Keep me updated!

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