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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Dec 21, 2014 5:47 PM CST
I have all unknown or seedling brugs. I used to have named ones, but either lost the tags or they died eventually. (I found out the hard way that I can't grow them in the ground here because of the root knot nematodes will eventually kill them.)

I have several different plants grown as standards (tree form), of which the majority were grown from seeds purchased a year or so ago. The blooms on most of those are smallish. (Several are double blooms.) And most are white blooms. I do have a couple of brugs that I received as cuttings that have larger blooms and I find that I prefer the larger blooming brugs best of all. So, I am interested to know what cultivars produce the largest blooms?

I have 2 that I love (names unknown). One is a golden yellow and the other is a white/pink blooms. Both smell divine!

Golden yellow (name unknown):
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Pink and white blooms. (This one had a fungus or bacteria attack it's trunk and I thought it was a goner, but I managed to save it.) This is a recent bloom flush:
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And this is a seedling with white blooms. The blooms are rather small and don't hang down like the larger blooming brugs do. I really prefer the larger blooming brugs so much more:
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I would like to acquire some cuttings of larger blooming brugs, but don't know which ones to consider. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Dec 21, 2014 6:08 PM CST
Wow, the pink one looks fantastic, Becky. What did you do to 'save' it??

I still haven't ditched my Charles Grimaldi that has the same fungal affliction, and it's blooming like crazy right now although the leaves look terrible.
Elaine

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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Dec 21, 2014 6:47 PM CST
Thanks, Elaine!

I just poured 3% hydrogen peroxide all over the wound and into the soil. The wounds have healed up and the plant is looking so much better now. It was a last effort attempt to save it. I love the blooms on it and couldn't bear to destroy it without trying everything I knew to try to save it. It seems to have worked. It is honestly my best blooming brug.

Is Charles Grimaldi a large blooming brug? What color is it?
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Dec 21, 2014 7:35 PM CST
It's a yellow one, but no, the flowers aren't as large as my big pink one. Btw, my pink one looks a lot like yours and has huge flowers (when it's healthy) too.

Thanks, I'm going to try the peroxide treatment!
Elaine

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Name: Rhapsody Hooks
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Rhapsody616
Dec 21, 2014 8:20 PM CST
H2O2 duly noted. Are you drenching the soil?
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Dec 21, 2014 9:25 PM CST
Elaine - What is the name of your pink blooming brug?

Rhapsody - Yes, I drenched the soil as well and let it sit overnight. I literally squirted the H2O2 all over the top of the soil. Then watered it in the following day. The H2O2 I think killed whatever fungus or bacteria was eating at the trunk. The trunk was soft and mushy on the outer bark. It has since started healing over and no longer feels mushy. I do believe that drenching the soil helps the most. It gets to the roots and heals from the bottom of the plant on up! Or at least that is what I believe happens.

I had a clematis vine this past Spring that was growing in a container and the drain holes were clogged up. The vine was drowning/dying after several days of heavy rain. I unclogged the holes and out gushed water. I then used the same drench method and miraculously the vine survived. It was really bad too, because the soil smelled really nasty. After a treatment of H2O2, which actually fizzled when I added it to the dirt and roots of the vine, the soil began to smell sweet again.

I swear by H2O2. Some folks have concerns about using it, but I have never lost a plant because I used it and believe I have saved several plants. I also add a couple of drops to the water I use to water seedlings. I believe it helps prevent root rot. I rarely lose young seedlings.

If you have a plant that is in dire shape, it's worth a try!
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Dec 21, 2014 10:04 PM CST
Sorry, I don't know the name, Betsy. I got it in a trade and the name that came with it was Insignis, but JT says there are no Insignis or Insignia in the US. Shrug!
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Name: Rhapsody Hooks
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Rhapsody616
Dec 22, 2014 12:35 AM CST
dyzzypyxxy said:Sorry, I don't know the name, Betsy. I got it in a trade and the name that came with it was Insignis, but JT says there are no Insignis or Insignia in the US. Shrug!


I have a Insignis 'Pink' and 'Yellow' growing in my yard.
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Rhapsody616
Dec 22, 2014 12:40 AM CST
Thanks Becky! All the ones I could not be sure of I have tossed at this point. But I can try your magic recipe the next time I am not sure. Lovey dubby
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bluegrassmom
Dec 22, 2014 4:55 AM CST
I am like you, I perfer the large blooms that hang down straight. The seedling is cute, I have had one that bloomed outward too. I really miss the scent they have in the garden. I am just really talking myself into more of these lol.

I grew them about 5 yrs. I haven't had them for about 5. My best was a Charles G. It is good to know about the Hydrogen remedy. Thanks.
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Dec 22, 2014 7:01 AM CST
"Insignis" = A cross between Brugmansia suaveolens x B. versicolor that hang almost straight down? It is supposed to produce large flaring blooms. This sounds like the species of brug that I prefer and quite possibly be what 2 of mine are. This species originated from the Upper Amazon of Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia. They prefer warmer climates.

Has anyone grown Emily McKenzie? If so, does it produce a larger bloom? What about Dr. Seuss? Are both of those large bloom producers?
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Dec 22, 2014 7:18 AM CST
I did more digging .... Apparently Brugmansia "versicolor" or a "cubensis hybrid" may have the largest flowers ....they can be up to 20" long. Also comes in more variety of colors. Sounds like THIS is the brug species that would be the best to grow for the larger blooms. I have had named cultivars before such as Pink Beauty and Ecuador Pink. I think the pink one I have now might be Frosty Pink. It sure looks like that cultivar.

I did find one seller:

http://www.kartuz.com/c/7RFPD/Brugmansia.html
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Name: Rhapsody Hooks
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Rhapsody616
Dec 22, 2014 6:31 PM CST
beckygardener said:

Has anyone grown Emily McKenzie? If so, does it produce a larger bloom? What about Dr. Seuss? Are both of those large bloom producers?


I have Emily McKenzie. She does have large bells and smells like a little peace of heaven!! I think I posted so picts in the galleries.
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beckygardener
Dec 22, 2014 9:11 PM CST
Rhapsody - Thanks! I've heard that cultivar produces nice-sized blooms. Pink blooms, correct?

I wonder if my orange-yellow bloomer is Dr. Suess? Does this one look like it might be?

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Closer look at one of the blooms:

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It's got some length on the blooms which flare out:

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This is one of my favorites for obvious reasons! Dr. Suess or something else?

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Name: Rhapsody Hooks
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Rhapsody616
Dec 22, 2014 11:35 PM CST
Yes it looks like it to me... but you can't tell a brug from a picture. And yes MEM is a wonder large pink.
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bluegrassmom
Dec 23, 2014 4:29 AM CST
Beautiful, I will take one of each! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

Love the pics.
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beckygardener
Dec 23, 2014 7:12 AM CST
I was thinking it was a "common" brug because I got it as a cutting from an ebay store. (Yeah, I know ....) No name came with it. It was advertized as an "orange" blooming brug. I've had yellow brugs in the past, too, but this one is not a clear yellow .... definitely has tinges of orange or golden yellow in it.

Rhapsody - Thanks for the information about MEM. I know some of the brug cultivars are the older brugs, but I am thinking now .... they may still be some of the best available. I also heard about "Cypress Gardens" cultivar. It's a white bloomer. Heard that is another really nice one to have.

What is a good clear yellow brug cultivar (with larger blooms, of course)?
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Dec 23, 2014 9:53 AM CST
Here's my big pink NOid, putting out a new flower today. The one in the second picture is still fully open although they usually close a bit during the day. It's as big as my open hand at the trumpet, and probably 11in. long. You're right, Becky, it could be Frosty Pink. I know I had one of those given to me at one time. @joeswife How's your tropical garden in the basement going these days?
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gitagal
Dec 27, 2014 2:41 PM CST
Becky--

I am pretty sure your yellow one is Dr. Seuss. I have been growing this one
for years. The fragrance in the evening is bewitching!

Dr. Seuss resembles Charles Grimaldi a lot--except--Dr. Seuss leaves have
serrated edges. One way to tall for sure. Your picture sows the serrated edges.

One other unique thing about the Dr. S. is it's growth habit.
It sprawls like a big beach umbrella. Flat-topped and wide. The blooms ARE huge!

I live in z-7a and have to winter mine over in my Shop. I trim it back a lot and then
it just sits there in the cool and dark. Always comes back... Gita

Here are a couple pictured from 2013.

Here is mine from Sept. 2013. (1-2-3). In the last picture--(2012) ou can see how the yellow
changes to apricot color as the blooms age. They usually last about 3 days.

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Name: Teresa
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bluegrassmom
Dec 27, 2014 4:46 PM CST
That is stunning!! Is your shop heated?

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