I've heard the tet versus dip explained before, but since I don't hybridize I've never paid any attention to such things - just the results. Since you will have two Christmas's in Oz to experiment with, it would be interesting to hear if you spot any appreciable differences between the two. If there was one thing I might improve on it would be the sturdiness of the scapes. Not bad, and my plant was just too new to draw any firm conclusions, but I hear this can be a fault with many UFs.............That green throat on Magic in Oz is very nice indeed. Looks like you have a real winner to me................Maryl