Roses forum: Can You Help Me ID this Purple please?

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Name: Joanne
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GrowJo
Jul 19, 2011 8:34 PM CST
This rose was mislabeled "Purple Tiger".

This rose is a hybrid tea and the fragrance is absolutely to die for. Does anyone recognize it? I couldn't quite get the color in the photo right; it's a deeper purple than what is shown in the photo. I was thinking it might be "Big Purple", but I've never seen one in bloom, so I don't know.

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Joanne


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Name: Joanne
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GrowJo
Jul 19, 2011 9:17 PM CST
Okay, here's another shot, a bit better color I think...


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zuzu
Jul 19, 2011 10:48 PM CST

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GrowJo, that is a stunning, stunning rose! I've never seen anything like it. Big Purple seems like a good guess. I don't grow that one, so I had to look at the HMF photos and they do resemble your rose. Of course, there's also the possibility that it wasn't mislabeled at all. It has a few subtle stripes. It could be a Purple Tiger that's reverting back to Intrigue (one of Purple Tiger's parents) and isn't all the way there yet. Take a look at some photos of Intrigue. There are several pages of them here:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1912&tab=36
Name: Joanne
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GrowJo
Jul 20, 2011 12:38 PM CST
Hi zuzu! Thanks for your reply; you're right, the roses do have very subtle striping. My next question is, Intrigue is a floribunda, right? This rose I have appears to be a hybrid tea, only single flowers on each stem, not clustered.
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Jul 20, 2011 1:49 PM CST

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That really isn't an argument against it, because Intrigue, oddly enough for a floribunda, also does not cluster. One bloom to a stem is the rule for Intrigue. That's even noted in our Cubits rose database (under "characteristics of bloom"):

http://cubits.org/roses/db/rosedatabase/view/6193/
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Skiekitty
Jul 20, 2011 5:32 PM CST
I was gonna say Stephen's Big Purple or Intrigue. But I see stripes, so I don't know why it couldn't be a very dark Purple Tiger w/very little white on it. I've noticed that most of my Perfume Tigers are more red than last year.
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Name: Joanne
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GrowJo
Jul 20, 2011 6:26 PM CST
Well, isn't that interesting. I just assumed because of the single bloom, it was a hybrid tea, not a floribunda. Shows you what I know about roses (zippo). LOL. Thanks for your help zuzu and Skiekitty!

I'm going to pass your comments on to another lady in our rose society; she has the same issue with her Purple Tiger (they came from the same greenhouse).
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zuzu
Jul 20, 2011 7:07 PM CST

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Oh, my gosh! Did you have that adorable tabby cat avatar yesterday? How did I miss it? It's a darling kitty face.
Name: Joanne
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GrowJo
Jul 20, 2011 7:57 PM CST
Yes, that's my baby doll. (aka Holmz, which we never call her). She's 16 1/2.

So I decided to go out and look at my purple rose a little more closely. Look what I found. Clusters of buds!!! Whistling Hilarious. Every other flower so far has been single and now there are two clusters forming. This has been really interesting!


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zuzu
Jul 20, 2011 8:39 PM CST

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Well, maybe this flush will be Purple Tiger and the last flush, the one with one to a stem, was a part of the rose that wanted to revert to Intrigue. Big Purple most certainly doesn't cluster, I don't think.

The kitty is a baby doll!

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