Irises forum: ummmmmm! ???

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Apr 1, 2015 5:58 PM CST
This is a mystery to me, something I havn't seen before but pehaps someone can provide and expanation or ID for this one. It is all of fifteen inches tall and the fan is less than half that. You can see other standard boarder bearded fans behind. I'm very intrigued. I tip my hat to you.
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Muddymitts
Apr 1, 2015 6:21 PM CST
Hi Leslie. Is it possible that this plant was hit with Round Up? Round Up doesn't kill Irises -- but it sure makes blooms look odd.
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Paul2032
Apr 1, 2015 6:32 PM CST
I would guess Round-Up is at fault. It does resemble the flat iris Rythm.
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Paul2032
Apr 1, 2015 6:33 PM CST
I would guess Round-Up is at fault. It does resemble the flat iris Rhythm. Double posted......


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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Apr 1, 2015 10:16 PM CST
Thank You Mary Ann and Paul. Round up may be a possiblility as we use it on the "Bermuda Grass". It does resemble Iris 'Rythm' though we have not grown it to my knowledge. I'll have to double check with everyone and see what the other Iris around it do. We have had one other Iris, last year that all had one extra fall. Thanks. I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Celia
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Zencat
Apr 1, 2015 10:42 PM CST
Interesting what chemicals can do...
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tveguy3
Apr 2, 2015 2:45 AM CST
I think it's pretty anyway! Smiling
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Name: Leslie
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Lestv
Apr 2, 2015 7:49 AM CST
It is intriguing to look at. I don't think it is Rythym though because it only has 3 beards (Rythym has 6).
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Name: Celia
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Zencat
Apr 2, 2015 9:32 AM CST
Almost like a species. I like them, too.
Name: Leslie
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Lestv
Apr 2, 2015 10:01 AM CST
I was thinking species too Celia. It has had several blooms and they are all opening the same way. Would Roundup affect every bloom like that?
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crowrita1
Apr 2, 2015 10:25 AM CST
I don't think it's a mutated Rhythm....style arms aren't colored the same. As far as all the blooms being affected...I would think, if it's the "growing point" on the rhizome that was exposed to the chemical (causing the mutation) all the blooms on that stalk would be affected.It does appear to be an "older" iris, but, again it's hard to say how much the "mutation" may have affected it's genetics....so a "throwback would , or could ,be possible...I would think. Good news is it *should* "grow out of it", next season. If it "DOSEN'T".....well, you have a "new" one to register, I guess !!
Name: Celia
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Zencat
Apr 2, 2015 10:36 AM CST
How would that be registered? "Unknown x Round-up Overspray"?
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Apr 2, 2015 11:12 AM CST

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Lestv said:Would Roundup affect every bloom like that?


Yes, generally when you see irises that have been affected by Roundup (glyphosate), every flower on a given stalk will be damaged. However, you can have situations where only some stalks in a given clump are affected. It depends on when and where the exposure to the chemical occurred.

For what it's worth, Roundup doesn't cause "mutations" in plants. It's an enzyme inhibitor that prevents plants from producing certain amino acids they need to grow and live. Irises are somewhat resistant to glyphosate in the sense they often survive being sprayed with it, but they do absorb it and it does still act as an enzyme inhibitor in their cells and disrupts their growth to the point where they sometimes can't produce normal looking flowers.

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Henhouse
Apr 2, 2015 12:24 PM CST
I've had to resort to Roundup to eradicate Euphorbia cyparissis, which, even though I planted it, is a viscous weed.
I thought I had shielded this Iris, but apparently some drifted onto it..

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lovemyhouse
Apr 2, 2015 12:33 PM CST
Really pretty one, Leslieray. Smiling
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Name: Mary Ann
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Muddymitts
Apr 2, 2015 12:36 PM CST
Well -- that's one beautiful mutation, Sherry -- I like it better than the original!!! Rolling on the floor laughing

Did it go back to its original colors the next year?
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Henhouse
Apr 2, 2015 9:48 PM CST
That was last year... we'll see what happens this year...
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UndertheSun
Apr 2, 2015 10:09 PM CST
I was going to say the same thing Mary Ann. Hilarious!
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 2, 2015 11:55 PM CST

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Leslie, that's exactly what mine looked like when they were hit by Roundup drift one year. They all snapped back nicely, though, and looked normal the next year.
Name: Leslie
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Lestv
Apr 3, 2015 7:05 AM CST
Good to know it doesn't cause permanent mutation!
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