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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Apr 6, 2015 6:43 AM CST

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As you all know, ATP is a completely free site and I plan for it to stay that way forever. I don't ever want to charge a subscription and I don't anticipate that we'll ever need to. The revenue we gain from the advertisements we place on the site more than offset our costs and even provide us with some income.

I do believe that some people who are "power users" of ATP would prefer to not see the ads, and that many of those people would never click on an ad anyway, so showing ads to them would be pointless. Therefore, this weekend I added code to allow those power members to disable ads for their account.

To disable the ads, go to your profile then click on your site preferences. In the list of preferences you will see "Disable ads on the site?" and you can choose yes and then save it. If the option does not appear on the site, then you're not eligible for the feature.

So who is eligible? Simply put, everybody who has contributed at least a hundred different things to the database. That includes images, comments, and databox proposals. If you've been active in the database then you probably have this feature enabled.
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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jvdubb
Apr 6, 2015 6:47 AM CST
Ha! I'm a power user!! Yay

But I'm not going to disable ads. I don't even see them Rolling on the floor laughing I'm really a targeted user.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Region: Alabama Composter Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Seedfork
Apr 6, 2015 6:52 AM CST
I barely notice them either, but I disabled them just to have a less cluttered look.
Edited: Yes, I like it better without the ads.
[Last edited by Seedfork - Apr 6, 2015 6:54 AM (+)]
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 6, 2015 7:15 AM CST
OK I have also disabled ads Thank You! . I'm just wondering whether this feature wouldn't turn off potential advertisers, though? Confused
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
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vic
Apr 6, 2015 7:35 AM CST
Thank you Dave Thumbs up
Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Apr 6, 2015 7:56 AM CST
I think I'm happier to know I'm a "Power User". Woo hoo! But I agree with Seedfork, the less cluttered look is better.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Apr 6, 2015 8:01 AM CST

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Dutchlady1 said:I'm just wondering whether this feature wouldn't turn off potential advertisers, though?


We had over 125,000 different people access ATP in March. Only around 300 members are eligible to turn off ads. So we're talking about a very small population of members that have the power to turn off ads. I don't think it's even noticable.
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
Cottage Gardener Houseplants Spiders! Heucheras Frogs and Toads Dahlias
Hummingbirder Sedums Winter Sowing Peonies Region: Michigan Garden Ideas: Level 2
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jvdubb
Apr 6, 2015 8:08 AM CST
Oh wow, well then maybe I will turn them off.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Apr 6, 2015 8:10 AM CST

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If you're not clicking on ads anyway, then it doesn't matter whether they are on or not for you. Advertisers only care if they get actual customers from the ads. So if you don't pay attention to them then your viewing them isn't helping ATP (for the most part.) We only get paid when we send real customers to the advertisers.
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Forum moderator Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals
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Dutchlady1
Apr 6, 2015 8:15 AM CST
Thanks for the explanation, Dave. Wouldn't want you to miss out Smiling
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Apr 6, 2015 9:10 AM CST
dave said:If you're not clicking on ads anyway, then it doesn't matter whether they are on or not for you. Advertisers only care if they get actual customers from the ads. So if you don't pay attention to them then your viewing them isn't helping ATP (for the most part.) We only get paid when we send real customers to the advertisers.


Do the Green Pages not count for anything? I think they should. It's one of the reasons I'd like to see the searchable categories increased. Listed vendors would be well served by checking those off themselves, rather than leave it up to us general users who use the pages as a potential site to place orders. We could find them a lot easier. At least that's my thinking. It would be a lot more pro-active than waiting for someone to click on an ad and in the form of a service as much as an ad. It should benefit both vendor and potential customers.

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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Apr 6, 2015 9:28 AM CST
Really I just ignore the ads. They don't bother me. So I will leave things just as they are.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 6, 2015 9:45 AM CST
I agree, and once in a (great) while I even click on one!
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Apr 6, 2015 10:16 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

needrain said:Do the Green Pages not count for anything? I think they should.


The Green Pages are currently in "Phase 1" development. It's still a feature that is in its toddlerhood and I have long term plans to use the Green Pages to make shopping experiences for customers, connecting gardeners with seed/plant suppliers in a meaningful way. I've been talking with a few companies about my ideas and I'm getting a lot of positive feedback.

In the meantime, yes, I do encourage the companies to fill in their details and a good number of them have done it. I wish more would come and pay attention to their listing, though. It's free advertising for their company!!
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Frillylily
Apr 6, 2015 10:21 AM CST
Thank you!
Name: Beverly
Colima, Mexico (Zone 11a)
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vitrsna
Apr 6, 2015 10:23 AM CST
I am not a "power user", only being a one month old ATP user, but the ads don't bother me and in fact i expect them from "free sites", even the "pay sites" have ads all over the place. Most of the time i don't notice them, sometimes something of interest catches my eye and i'll click on it. Now that i am reminded that this generates revenue, i'll probably click on things more often. I don't think ATP members in general expect you to be donating all this time and energy and face it, acorns will only buy so much. I think it is generous of you to think of the members in this way. Maybe the members who use the opt out of ads option will take a one day a month (or so) to turn the ads back on and click a few in appreciation.
Name: Sharon
Calvert City, KY (Zone 7a)
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Sharon
Apr 6, 2015 10:30 AM CST
Ahhhhhhhhh, uncluttered! I love it.
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Apr 6, 2015 11:41 AM CST
Thank You!
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Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Apr 6, 2015 11:49 AM CST
The ads don't bother me. I even bought something once. I think. (Heh, not sure if the ad showed up before or after I bought that room divider.)
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Name: Ronnie
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
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luvsgrtdanes
Apr 6, 2015 1:11 PM CST
Cool Thank You!
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