European Bladdernut (Staphylea pinnata) in the Plant ID forum

Apr 7, 2015 3:44 AM CST

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Name: Milan
(Zone 8a)
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Hi,

I bought this plant as magnolia and planted it last year.
Now everyone is telling me it may be anything but magnolia.
I would appreciate the help in identifying it.

European Bladdernut (Staphylea pinnata)
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purpleinopp

Apr 7, 2015 6:59 AM CST

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Looks like you'll be able to see its' blooms soon. There are buds in the middle pic.

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Makanudo

Apr 7, 2015 7:46 AM CST

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Name: Milan
(Zone 8a)
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Saw the buds...they are at three places, but they are hanging down. All the pictures of blossoming magnolia have no stems and flowers come straight up from branch.
So it is a magnolia?

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KentPfeiffer

Apr 7, 2015 8:33 AM CST

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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)

It's almost certainly NOT a Magnolia. It appears to have compound leaves, which is not a trait of Magnolias.

Having said that, unfortunately I can't offer any suggestions about what it IS.

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sooby

Apr 7, 2015 8:35 AM CST

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)

Makanudo said:
So it is a magnolia?

Welcome to ATP

Agree with Kent, I almost cross-posted but got the warning

I too don't think it is a magnolia because it appears to have compound leaves. A magnolia should also have alternate rather than opposite leaf arrangement but can't really see which it has from the pictures. If you'd like to know what it is it may help to know roughly where you are. It will also be easier, unless someone else recognizes it as is, when the flowers are more developed.

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plantladylin

Apr 7, 2015 8:36 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

It does not look like Magnolia to me, I wonder if it could be Viburnum tinus which I've heard called "Spring Bouquet Magnolia"? Once the blooms open you will better be able to get an exact ID so I hope you will post photos once those buds are open.

There are a few Viburnum tinus listed in our database: http://garden.org/plants/searc...

And more info/images for comparison:
http://magnoliagardensnursery....

http://www.mainrom.com/photosh...

More images:
http://www.google.com/search?q...

edited to say, the leaves remind me of shrubs I've seen here in the south but I don't really have a clue. Does Mock Orange (Philadelphus) have compound leaves?

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sooby

Apr 7, 2015 8:43 AM CST

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)

I had a Viburnum tinus when I lived in the UK and it doesn't have compound leaves either.

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KentPfeiffer

Apr 7, 2015 9:20 AM CST

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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)

It's not Viburnum tinus.

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plantladylin

Apr 7, 2015 9:28 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Yeah, definitely not Viburnum now that I look closely at leaf photos.

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greene

Apr 7, 2015 9:51 AM CST

Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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The pictures are sideways.
Can we ask for a clue as to which state or which country this was planted?

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Makanudo

Apr 7, 2015 11:56 AM CST

Thread OP

Name: Milan
(Zone 8a)
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Heres another photo...
Thanks everyone for engaging in order to help me solve this one!
I planted this last spring and it didnt blossom first year.
My location is outside US. I am in Europe, in the Balkans. We have moderate continental climate with four distinct seasons.

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Makanudo

Apr 7, 2015 11:57 AM CST

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Name: Milan
(Zone 8a)
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Sorry for lousy photos
Country is Serbia, city of Belgrade

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jvdubb

Apr 7, 2015 12:00 PM CST

Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)

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Makanudo

Apr 7, 2015 12:02 PM CST

Thread OP

Name: Milan
(Zone 8a)
HOLD * FAST

"Keep a green tree in your hart, and perhaps a singing bird will come."
Chinese proverb

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sooby

Apr 7, 2015 1:24 PM CST

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)

It seems very difficult to match up the pendulous flower clusters with pinnately compound leaves, but how about Staphylea colchica, Caucasian bladdernut as a tentative possibility - at least until the flowers open completely?

http://www.plantae.ca/Staphyle...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
http://www.missouribotanicalga...

There's also a Staphylea pinnata which I think has wider distribution. If it was sold as an ornamental, though, the native range isn't necessarily going to be all that useful.

http://www.imagines-plantarum....

The leaves look a little closer to S. colchica in some of the pictures though.

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