I may have to have a black rose seed pack. We grew quite a few from seeds and they were easy and the rate was excellent. I ordered on ebay from Thailand and was happy with the bunch. It's been a while. I'll try your link Hetty, Thanks.
I loved the link for the huge tree Alan. I've seen a 6' one in full bloom and it was so gorgeous! The nursery owners pruned it regularly since it was a stock plant and it was just marvelous!
I like your cubit Taylor!!!