I went and looked at the database to see what other Orange "self"s I have and the total was 7. Really?
Oh James
Fiery Figure
both lost.
Firebreather has yet to bloom (after two seasons).
Avalon Sunset is the most reliable of the group (oh, yeah; it did not bloom this year!)
China Moon. Older and blooms ok, but is a slow increaser.
I guess I proved my point