Plant ID forum: Mulberry (Morus); sculpted leaves of young Mulberry

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plantrob
Jun 28, 2015 6:40 PM CST
Volunteer in a back corner of my garden. Grows from a woody base. It looks so familiar, but I can't place it.


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Jun 28, 2015 7:23 PM CST
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froggardener
Jun 28, 2015 7:31 PM CST
I have an article about a blue flowering, winter hardy hibiscus that they were trying to develop a while back with leaves like that and I have a couple of hibiscus that have similar leaves

http://today.agrilife.org/2012/07/09/researchers-take-hibisc...
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Paul2032
Jun 28, 2015 7:39 PM CST
Mulberry seedling?
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ctcarol
Jun 28, 2015 7:51 PM CST
Well, since we're all throwing out guesses, my first thought was Papaya, but that's not likely in Pen. Process of elimination. Shrug! I think growing from a woody base might be the clue here.
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Jun 28, 2015 7:57 PM CST
Carol, it does look like a papaya
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greene
Jun 28, 2015 8:06 PM CST
I would say it's the leaves of an immature Mulberry. The leave shape and size is extremely variable.
Had a similar situation a while back:
The thread "Tree ID needed" in Plant ID forum
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Name: Rob
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plantrob
Jun 28, 2015 8:08 PM CST
I have mulberry seedlings all over. Unless this is a really special one, this is something else. I did think malvaceae myself, based on the leaves, but I've no idea what hibiscus looks like that.
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froggardener
Jun 28, 2015 8:09 PM CST
Boy those mulberries get around, I would like one and never get it
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froggardener
Jun 28, 2015 8:11 PM CST
Maybe the birds gave you a special one
I hope it is. They are one of my favorites
Did you see the blue in the link
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plantrob
Jun 28, 2015 8:15 PM CST
OK, having looked at some of those other threads and external references, I agree that it might very well be mulberry. That means I need to get rid of it, which is too bad - I like those leaves...
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froggardener
Jun 28, 2015 8:24 PM CST
Well, that is a shame
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wildflowers
Jun 29, 2015 9:30 AM CST
That doesn't look anything like a mulberry I've ever seen -- but I'm mainly talking about Morus rubra. Unless you could have thrown seed of papaya out there, I'd say it looks more like some kind of Abelmoschus or like Jolana said, hibiscus.

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wildflowers
Jun 29, 2015 11:43 AM CST
Okay, I just looked at Greene's and related links. I guess it is some weird form of Morus, most likely related to Morus alba. And from the looks of it, a good move to pull it up!! Thumbs up
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Zencat
Jun 29, 2015 12:52 PM CST
Are there any flowers starting?
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greene
Jun 29, 2015 1:24 PM CST
From what I have learned these are the immature leaves or they leaves of an immature plant. As the plant/tree grows the leaves will take on a more recognizable form. For the tree near my house, the landscapers are forever cutting it back to the fence line, so it may never show its true leaf shape. My plan is to find a way to get some cuttings and allow the tree to grow just long enough to document the change in leaf shape. That's the plan anyway. Whistling

Plantrob, is there any way you can hold off digging up the tree to help get a more positive identification? There should be no danger of the plant spreading if you stop the growth before the tree fruits. Shrug!
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wildflowers
Jun 29, 2015 1:29 PM CST
Morus rubra is the same way. The young saplings have very lobed leaves and then when they mature they change. With M. rubra, this usually occurs in the second year, if that helps any.
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froggardener
Jun 29, 2015 3:19 PM CST
Just out of curiosity, I would love to see what it turns out to be
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Zencat
Jun 29, 2015 3:20 PM CST
Me, too.
Name: Rob
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plantrob
Jun 29, 2015 6:31 PM CST
greene said:Plantrob, is there any way you can hold off digging up the tree to help get a more positive identification? There should be no danger of the plant spreading if you stop the growth before the tree fruits. Shrug!

I'm not concerned about the tree spreading - the birds do a good enough job spreading mulberries all around, one more source of fruit isn't going to make that big of a difference. But I've had a hard time digging up mulberry volunteers once they've gotten themselves established, so I don't want to let it go too long. I can usually identify mulberries easily, even at a young stage - this one is really quite different looking. I can hold off a little while to see how it develops later into the year.

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