Irises forum: My first NoID

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Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 5, 2015 5:27 PM CST
A friend gave me several iris last summer, but only two bloomed. So many of you know iris by sight so I thought I would add to your brain processes. Does anyone have a name for this one, I have looked on the dB and thought it might be Thornbird. Any suggestions?
Cleta
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 5, 2015 5:29 PM CST
Sorry gang, it was taking forever to upload the pics so I"ll have to read up on that before I try again,
Cleta
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 5, 2015 6:47 PM CST
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Aha! success in uploading a picture. Here is the NoID I was asking about. Sorry it took two entries to complete. Grumbling
Cleta
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Jul 5, 2015 7:38 PM CST
The horns look right but it looks a bit too yellow. Is that the lighting? Is it usually more tanish?
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Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 5, 2015 10:16 PM CST
I only have that pic but I would say it was more tanish.
Cleta
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Jul 6, 2015 2:55 AM CST
Thornbird is known to vary a lot in different soil conditions. Check out the database and see what you think. If you want a Thornbird rhizome as a test plant, I can send one in your box.
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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Jul 6, 2015 7:42 AM CST
Sure looks like Thornbird to me -- it's a very unique Iris!!
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
Jul 6, 2015 8:05 AM CST
my Thornbird looks quite a bit different.

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It has tan standards with a lavender flush and tan on the falls where it looks white in the photo. But the lavender lines really stand out.
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jul 6, 2015 8:11 AM CST
As Tom said for Thornbird, different soils, different color. Sometimes the 'horns' are 'spoons'.
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Jul 6, 2015 8:37 AM CST
My thornbird this year had both horns and spoons on different blooms, but the red purple horns on thornbird are different than I have seen on any other space ager.

Here are pics of mine, with different lighting really affecting the color:

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Hanging with Helen Collingwood:

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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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grannysgarden
Jul 6, 2015 8:40 AM CST
I have heard some people say that Thornbird is one of their favorites and I have heard some people say they would toss it. It is an odd one that has stayed around for awhile.
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Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
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Misawa77
Jul 6, 2015 8:58 AM CST
I think that the appeal of Thornbird is varied. It is a Space Ager; it can be different (spoons or/and flounces); it has a somewhat "Ugly" colour* range, and it is a FANTASTIC grower/increaser. Hard to go wrong on this one IMHO.



* Yes, I used the "British/English/UK" version of color to augment my point! Sticking tongue out
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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crowrita1
Jul 6, 2015 9:45 AM CST
I grow it, but I can't really say about yours, Cleta...as mine hasn't bloomed for a close examination. But, from all the pictures I've seen, I'll agree with the "different soils, different color" thing.
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 6, 2015 3:00 PM CST
Different soils do make a huge difference. I did not know that about iris, But then I have never compared mine to someone else's.
Cleta
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 10, 2015 10:19 PM CST
I am adding another NoID to this thread. Should I have started a new thread? Anyway here is the pic. Accurate coloring with peachy pink standards and rosy burgundy plicata falls. Any ideas from you who know all. (Hope that sounds
better than 'know it alls'?)
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I read these threads and am amazed at the repartee and camaraderie between so many of you. Impressive.
Cleta
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Jul 11, 2015 3:53 PM CST
Cleta, do you have any other shots of it? I would think peach standards with a spray plicata pattern on the falls would be identifiable. The sun is a bit bright, so a shadier pic would help. Iris look so different in sun and shade.
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Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 11, 2015 7:33 PM CST
I don't. I just took it for my records. I did not know I would have a forum of knowledgeable people to help me identify it,
Cleta
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Region: Idaho Lilies Irises
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cbelt1
Jul 11, 2015 9:44 PM CST
I thought it might be "Whirl Around"?
Cleta
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jul 13, 2015 2:22 PM CST
Praetorian Guard is also similar. I don't know if that is what you have though.
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Jul 13, 2015 3:58 PM CST
Hmmmm.. In that color range, our database shows:
Llama Mama
Roman Song
Secret Melody

It would be helpful to know the beard color... also how long you've had it..
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