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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 11, 2015 8:28 AM CST
... and your Mommy? Guess the parents!

Since I moved to a different house this year I wasn't able to do grow outs of my "specials". I ended up growing out F1's of previous years of open pollination MG's grown together on the same frame.

As flowers open I think it would be fun to try and guess the parents of the obvious crosses (though there are bound to be purebred's).

Here is a list of the MG's I've planted - unless otherwise indicated, they are F1's:

Double Blue Picotee X Mini Bar Rose F2, F3, F4,
Platycodon Blue X Fujishibori F1
Grey Fog
Rose Silk
Rose Silk X Fujishibori F1
Mini Bar Rose,
NOID Blues & Pinks

and

Rose Silk
Hanafubuki
Sunsmile Purple
Platycodoon Blue
Grandpa Ott
Cardinal Climber Yellow

Here are the first batch - I've numbered the pictures so if you're guessing the parentage, refer to the picture number:

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 12, 2015 8:40 PM CST
After looking back at my records, I'm 99.99% sure that number 1 is the Platycodon X Fujishibori F1.

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Number 2 looks like a Hanafubuki purebred and don't have a clue where number 3 came from - It's more yellow than my camera was able to pick up. It will be interesting to see if future blooms from the same plant come out that yellow.

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luvsgrtdanes
Jul 13, 2015 3:18 PM CST
# 1 looks like Heian No Kaori' to me.

I had one like # 3 last year that was yellowish...it came from Joseph
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 13, 2015 8:52 PM CST
I just looked up the Heian No Kaori - it does look a bit like it but I'm pretty sure I've never had seeds for that one. The color in #1 is more saturated too - I've tagged the plant and will keep an eye on subsequent blooms. It will be interesting to see if the next one have a definitive patterning to it like the Platy/Fuji F1 in the above picture.

The Platycodon Blue X Fujishibori cross is proving to be interesting the F2's looked very different and had an interesting age morph (don't know what else to call it) - that second picture is of the same flower but about 5 hours old. I'll be definitely growing out some of the F3's next year.

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 15, 2015 7:08 AM CST
Today's offerings.

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Number 4 is Grey Fog.

Number 5 is definitely a cross. I'm thinking it might be the PlatyFuji F1 X Blue Picotee X Minibar Rose

For number 6 I'm leaning toward Rose Silk X Fujishibori F1. It's a different coloring than the usual Rose Silk X Fujishibori F1 I was getting with previous grow outs of the F1 seeds. The picture below is the coloring that occurred.

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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Jul 15, 2015 7:21 AM CST
OMG that last one has knockout purple color!
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 15, 2015 7:42 AM CST
It is very purple indeed! I was very disappointed though .. this was a deliberate Rose Silk X Fujishibori cross and I was keeping my fingers crossed for speckles .. so far, everything I have crossed with Fujishibori has not had speckles .. so I'm thinking the speckles are very recessive.
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 6:54 AM CST
Today's offerings

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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Jul 17, 2015 8:39 AM CST
Blizzard MGs to die for.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 8:50 AM CST
Number 10 was a jaw dropper .. I've sequestered it and hand pollinated. Number 9 looks like Hana but I've never seen Hana put out that pattern before so I'm wondering if it might be a cross.
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GordonHawk
Jul 17, 2015 11:16 AM CST
Yes...number 10 is interesting...looks like it and 7 might share a ruffled look to it...maybe a common parent...
LOVE your avatarpicture... I have it planted and it's maybe 3-4 ft. Along now...building up some strength...when did you start seeing flowers on it...and what was flowering like...a few...a lot...frequently...continually..seldom...
The one i have growing isn't the cousin. I grew without flowers last year.." But I believe it is yours... I tip my hat to you.

Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 12:38 PM CST
Thanks! The Trichosanthes has been blooming sporadically this year - may not be getting enough sun and can't seem to get enough food. They bloom the first year from seeds but more prolifically after a year. They are definitely zone 8 hardy so I leave them, pots and all out during winter.

Seven and 8 remind me of Youjiro, color and patterning wise but the form is different. I've tagged the 9 plant to see if it puts out more odd patterned blooms. Ten is amazing and I'm keeping my fingers crossed the plant is consistent with the blooms.
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 18, 2015 7:47 AM CST
Today's offerings

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This is exciting! After seeing number 11 this morning thought it was the same plant as 10 but I was wrong .. same form, similar pattern but different color .. I noticed too in number 12, that it was trying to double so I'm wondering if there might be some DBP X MBR in there! You can see in 13 which is the DBP X MBR the same unusual form of the anthers.

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Gerris2
Oct 19, 2015 6:29 AM CST
I had to cover my plants from the first hard frost of the year. Some of my Ipomoea purpurea are still blooming.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Oct 19, 2015 7:50 AM CST
Wow! I've had a few keep blooming here after freezes before .. tough guys!
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mkb136
Nov 1, 2015 4:20 PM CST
Very nice collection! X heres the mutant i was talking about
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Nov 1, 2015 7:47 PM CST
The leaves remind me of I. aquatica.
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