Daylilies forum: 'near white self' ??

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Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Jul 13, 2015 2:55 AM CST
hi all,

today I have my first flower on Dan's White Lie.

I'ts supposed to be a 'near white self', but I guess he.. uhm, lied about that Sad
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Will it turn more white as the plants settle/mature?
It was planted late April.

Thank You!
Mayo

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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 13, 2015 9:35 AM CST
Mayo - I doubt it will turn white, but it could get lighter with future blooms. Time will tell.

What I have noticed with mine is that often they get darker in color, but that is not to say yours will. Patterns can change quite a bit too from year 1 to year 3, as well as teeth and ruffles. 3 years growing a particular plant can really be an eye-opener.
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Seedfork
Jul 13, 2015 9:53 AM CST
Just looks like the wrong plant to me, does it have a fragrance?
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beckygardener
Jul 13, 2015 10:20 AM CST
Something else I have noticed with most of my blooms ....

Early morning before the sun hits them, they either are darker or lighter in color. Once the sun hits them, most often have a noticeable color-change. See my post showing a Buddy Hudson seedling that changed colors somewhat after the sun hit it:
http://garden.org/thread/view_post/902019/
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Frillylily
Jul 13, 2015 10:42 AM CST
It appears that you have a NOID
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beckygardener
Jul 13, 2015 11:08 AM CST
Does anyone have a photo of the actual Dan's White Lie bloom? I couldn't find one.
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Name: Dnd
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DogsNDaylilies
Jul 13, 2015 12:45 PM CST
Maybe that cultivar has that name for a reason?... Big Grin
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beckygardener
Jul 13, 2015 1:00 PM CST
That's exactly what I was thinking! Thumbs up I would love to see a photo of it to know for sure.
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kidfishing
Jul 13, 2015 1:05 PM CST
DogsNDaylilies said:Maybe that cultivar has that name for a reason?... Big Grin

Hilarious!

Most of my near whites are yellow.....
I couldn't find a picture of it.
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Frillylily
Jul 13, 2015 2:19 PM CST
well if it is supposed to be near white, it isn't even close. I have some near whites and they really are nearly white. I have some that are really white, not creamy. But that pic is just flat out yellow.
What color does the AHS description say?
Name: Dnd
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DogsNDaylilies
Jul 13, 2015 2:25 PM CST
Frillylily said:well if it is supposed to be near white, it isn't even close. I have some near whites and they really are nearly white. I have some that are really white, not creamy. But that pic is just flat out yellow.
What color does the AHS description say?


What are your whitest daylilies?

I've heard a lot of people say Joan Senior is one of the whitest daylilies available, so I purchased it. When I saw Heavenly Angel Ice and it's parent, Frozen Mert, at a daylily garden recently, I could have sworn that both of those were whiter than Joan Senior.
Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Jul 13, 2015 3:23 PM CST
Yes, I'm doubting it is Dan's White Lie too... Sighing!

Here is a picture from the nursery website:
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AHS states it should be a 'near white self'

It wás raining and cloudy all day, but still... canary yellow is not going to turn into near white
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I'm going to email the nursery and ask their opinion
(I réally don't like plain yellow flowers... Thumbs down )


Mayo



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Name: Dnd
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DogsNDaylilies
Jul 13, 2015 3:43 PM CST
What a bummer, I'm sorry. Yellow is my favorite color and yet I pretty much refuse to have it in my daylily garden because I'm so sick of Stella D'Oro everywhere. I feel your distaste for plain yellow daylilies, is what I'm trying to say. :)
Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Jul 13, 2015 4:54 PM CST
you know, now that I've got it, it will probably grow on me Rolling my eyes.

Yellow is just not my favorite color in the garden, so when I dó have a yellow I want it to at least have an exiting pattern or interesting shape... Sighing!

I'll wait for the nursery to answer me and than perhaps I can give it to someone who will really appreciate it Thumbs up



Mayo
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Name: Dnd
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DogsNDaylilies
Jul 13, 2015 5:43 PM CST
If you end up wanting to keep it, putting it in with some red mums or some 'Summer Nights' delphinium. Then it'll pop!
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Claudia
Jul 16, 2015 10:00 AM CST
I agree It is very pretty yellow daylily.
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