thanks ladies .... i go out into the woods and collect them to make canes with and some are to big for canes so i use them for post . it is small trees with vines growing up them . you can make your own by planting a vine beside a small sapling and keeping the vine winding up the tree . takes 2 or 3 years for a good one but it is worth it in the end .i have done it with grape vines as well as ivy . the best trees are wild cherry , or hickory . the wild cherry grows fast and takes most of the waiting out of the process . locust is great to but takes forever to grow .