I have a tet that supposedly works on dips too, and I can't remember which one it is! I forgot to write it down when I someone say that, since of course, I was not going to forget that!

I sure hope someone like @sooby , @char , or @admmad can comment about such daylilies. I am VERY curious to know more and to get some verification on this ability to cross species of tets and dips.

Ed Murray and Lights of Detroit are two that I remember.
Why is Desperado Love listed as a Triploid?

ED MURRAY!! That's the one I have! Thanks Ashton!

Never mind on this. Ashton found an earlier thread on the subject.

Becky, maybe you can start a new thread for this? It would be a great way to gather all of that information in one place!

The thread "Ploidy issue?" in Daylilies forum

Thanks Ashton!

One thing don't forget when making your tags to make a symbol to show if it is a Tet *

It would have been very helpful. Instead I have to return to the computer sometimes

Natalie, I am the worst about not aiming to forget important stuff or where things are stored.

This year we had a seedling bloom for the first time and realized our tag must have listed the cross incorrectly. Ashton described it as looking very much like Jerry Hyatt. I thought certain it is a Tet. To test we put it's pollen on several other daylilies, both Tet and Dip. Almost all set seed pods. The pods looked good for a few weeks and then the Tets started to abort. We are now sure the seeding is Dip since all the Dip seeds stayed and I harvested the first pod yesterday from Dip seedling plant.
Here's the seedling that we were unsure of.

Another topic, if anyone on here sets too many seeds on one plant, I am sure it is me. Last year for instance, I set over 50 pods on one clump of Beautiful Edgings. I was blooming some BE seedlings that looked good to me. Tall heavy scapes with good branching and bud counts but limited genetics (3 or 4 different crosses) with BE as the pod parent. I wanted to try lots of colors, sizes, and forms crossed with BE, so I set pods with 20 different DL's.
This year Beautiful Edgings has not done that well. Only about 5 scapes on a large clump and bud counts on the scapes are much less than last year. It got a rest this year. ( but there are a few other that I used very heavily this year.) I only use diploids, Aston does both Tet and Dip seeds and around here only the Dips will set enough to have too many pods.

The 4 Dips that I have the most seedlings from:
Rose F Kennedy
Indian Giver
Stargate Portal
Beautiful Edgings

Terry

Terry - Thanks for that info about over pollinating a daylily. If that is true, I will have a few plants needing a rest. One of the seedlings (Stippled Statement x unknown) set pods on every single bloom. (I, too, used different pollen on it!) I am sure it is going to need a nice rest after all of that. But .... I did have to cut the scapes with pods off of all my backyard daylilies because of the rat issue. Would doing that have spared the daylily from putting so much of it's energy into growing and ripening the seeds? Or does that happen when the pod first starts developing?

Another topic, the weather does make all the difference. I am sitting here posting because it is 96 outside. I should be spraying weeds and grass to get a new area ready for 5000+ seedlings to be planted as soon as we get a cool down, probably in Sept.
(we will be looking forward to 2016 and 2017 and the new blooms from some first time parents)
Ashton used Tet Texas Kaleidoscope and Tet Super Fancy Face as well as Supernatural and Dragonfly Dawn. I used 4 of Carpenter's Kaleidoscopes for Dips.
I tell of the summer of 2011, where believe it or not we have records as being the hottest place in the entire USA. Also in 2011, the coldest temps ever recorded in our state preceded the hottest summer ever. Some towns around here had a temp range from the winter record of 31 below zero to a summer high of 115. My dad is like the weather service around here and has kept detailed weather records for over 50 years. He is not a weather person, just a farmer and gardener. That year it was 96 on May 24th and that was the second lowest temp until Sept 17th. The avg temp in July of 2011 was 90.3 and the hottest avg temp month recorded in the US for any month. The avg temp in Aug 2011 was 89.7 and the hottest avg temp for the month of Aug on record. For that summer we had 63 days over 100 degrees. We set some seeds but by harvest time only had a handful of pods that had not cooked off. Not one seed germinated for us that year. Ashton went to the Lily Auction so he could have some seeds. (I guess I did too)
We did loose some daylilies that year including an entire order of the only full collection that I have ever purchased.
Terry

This Beautiful Edgings seedling is 45 inches tall with 4 branches and 28 buds.
The scape is as strong as any Tet.

Terry - Ooooh! I love that BE seedling.

Yikes! I had no idea you got such high and low record setting temps in Oklahoma. That is quite a challenge to hybridize in such a extreme climate change.

I would be sick to lose an entire collection that I purchased. The price alone would make me gasp, not to mention the hopes and dreams that were dashed. Sorry to hear that happened.

Becky, I think cutting the scapes as you did will at least help speed the recovery.
I don't know for sure, but I would think the stress was reduced.
I have a few seedlings loaded with pods this year. I was so impressed with buds and branching of some of the seedlings that I have to see if the traits will be passed on. I have seedlings with 4-6 branches and 30 buds. For us that is good as we grow 500 registered daylilies and few compare to our best seedlings for buds and branching.

Thanks for the encouragement. I hear you about seedlings vs. registered daylilies performance. All I can say is that sometimes a cross of two good parents can sometimes create a remarkable child plant. That is what all of us that hybridize strive for.

I really believe that the 3 year growth to wait for a seedling to mature can really make all the difference in the world. I've seen it with some of my unknown seedlings. Some of them are 3 this year and they have really surprised me! They did change some (flowers) too by the 3rd year but the scapes, number of buds, and multiplying was pretty impressive in my eyes compared to the first and second year.

'Coyote Moon' does set pods easily (I have only tried it with tets), but it is a rust susceptible plant, and it passes on that rust susceptibility to some extent. (At least, that has been my experience.)

Some dips are easy to set pods on, others are not. I've had no success with 'Newberry White Dove' and 'White Stripe'; I suspect that maybe the long pistils are part of the problem.

Getting back to the tets, I've had difficulty setting pods on 'Mary's Gold' (has long pistils), 'Osterized' (long pistils), 'Magical Indeed' (blunt stigmas or crooked pistils), and to a lesser extent, 'Polly Wolly Doodle' (for the same reasons as 'Magical Indeed'). 'Hip to Be Square', though, is very pod fertile, and the pollen can set pods.

Becky, that is why you don't see hybridizers from Oklahoma. But you also may not know that we get the most tornadoes and the most earthquakes of any state. Sounds like I should be posting on some other forum here. But, Ashton formed his interest in daylilies when he was 9 years old and would not let it go so I ended up going along with him. We have about 4000 seedlings currently in the ground growing and another 5000 in trays, cups, and pots. I have about 2500 seeds from last year that I have not had time to start.
The only things you have on us is humidity and hurricanes.
Just so you know, we think this is a great place to live and we love it here.

Over the years my best pod parents have been:

Symphony of Praise (sets seed when temps are in the 90s)
Shores of Time
Back Scratcher
Star of India

This year's best parents:

Barbara Mandrell for pod and pollen
Baja California for pod and pollen
Destined to See for pod and pollen
Wonder of It All for pods
Mozambique Nights for pods
Spacecoast Francis Busby for pods
Amethyst Prism has powerful pollen that works on even reluctant parents

Terry - Yes! I know about those killer tornadoes you get in OK. I didn't know about earthquakes though. Really???

Yeah, we've had some really bad hurricanes here over the years. But I love it in Florida. I've lived here most of my life and when I briefly moved away, I couldn't stay away. I came back. I love Florida (just not the idiot politicians here!). I guess that old saying is true .... Bloom where you are planted. Because my roots are dug in deep here in Florida and I don't know if I could bloom anywhere else. I am sure you and Ashton feel the same way about OK.

BTW - I have been wondering how old Ashton is? He seems very mature so I am thinking he is older than Jon (Dave's son) who is in his middle teens. I think that is so cool that these 2 young men are very serious about daylily hybridizing. If they stick with it, I think we will be hearing a LOT about any registered daylilies they create. I just know it!

Polymerous - You know .... I am glad you brought up the long pistil issue. I am having the same problem setting seeds on Fol de rol. I am sure it has something to do with the kinked and/or too long pistils on each bloom. I even thought about cutting the pistils to make them shorter and then try to hand-pollinate them. I did it on one, but it didn't set a pod. Is there a trick to getting pods to set on them?

Speaking of pistols, I have Daylilies that seem to produce them with more than one end. Does this affect the ability for them to accept the pollen? I have tried pollinating them, I spread the pollen on all ends, but have yet to have one take. I also have had blooms with more than one pistol, I have not tried pollinating these. Can you just put pollen on all of them and get a pod?

Thanks,
Gale