@bamira and I have been discussing the photo that he added to the database of Purple Pinwheel. He would like a discussion on this, so I'm hoping that others will give their opinion as to whether or not it is the correct daylily.

Here is the image that he added.



Here are some other photos of the daylily from the database for comparison.



He said, "I believe that this is the right plant, at the end of the day the flowers are dying and look different, the defective." I say that it is impossible, even at the end of the day, for a daylily to look that different.

Any help would be appreciated!

This is only a guess with some 80,000 registered cultivars, but the first image shown might possibly be Ned Robert's PURPLE MANY FACES. It is definitely not Purple Pinwheel! Here are a couple of images as PMF grows here for comparison to the first picture. The distinct white midrib shown in the other DB images would show even at the end of the day, ( it isn't apparent in the first picture) and the form of the two flowers is not the same!

It does look a lot more like "PURPLE MANY FACES" than "Purple Pinwheel". Could have been mislabeled?

Julie - Thanks for stating how many registered daylilies there are now! Wow! 80,000 !!! That is amazing in itself! Does any other plant species have that many unique cultivars? Roses? Orchids?

Obviously not a purple Pinwheel, PP is a 4.5, that one almost looks like a spider! Probably in the 6-7" range.
No white midrib either.

I agree that Daylies can look very different from garden to garden and from different times of day, but a small round flower can't turn in to that.

Bamira,
Not your fault, but here is another one that is not right.


Maybe I shouldn't of posted this in this thread.

Ashton/Terry, it is perfectly fine with me that you posted that one here!

Thanks for all of the opinions! Julie, that sure looks like the same daylily to me! I know that many look so similar that it is hard to tell the difference, but it looks like a match. Since the original is from the internet, there are no stats listed with it, so there is nothing else for comparison. I think you nailed it though!

I know bamira, is way ahead of most of us on plant knowledge, but it does not look like it could be the right plant to me, based on the size of the eye, the lack of the midrib, and the shape of the bloom, but only he saw it before it faded. So just my opinion.

Larry, the photo was taken off the internet. He didn't take the photo, and I'm fairly certain he didn't see this bloom in person. I assume that the photo came from Wiki, and here is the link to the original. It doesn't state anywhere on that page that it was an end of day photo.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/...

We should also compare the photo of Midnight Raider. I agree that it isn't the correct daylily.



Three others from the database.

I really need to add that I'm not attacking bamira. He's made many wonderful contributions with the photos. I just think that the photos in the database should be of the correct plant, and if I come across one, no matter who added it, I mention it. There have been many others that were added by other people, and I've been guilty of this myself! Sometimes errors happen to the best of us.

I also agree on 'Midnight Raider' I don't think that one is correct either.
Edited to add:
I had to come back and edit this, I don't like to just give an opinion without an explanation.
The lack of the dark halo, the difference in bloom shape, the color(but that is often very different) the different thorat appearance, for those reasons I think it is labeled wrong.

Here is another one. The only photo is the one that was added by bamira, but the description doesn't fit at all. The description says lemon yellow overlaid peach with green yellow throat. Do any of you grow this one and have a picture? Just based on the description, it can't be the correct daylily.

I found an incorrect picture the other day also and mentioned it in another thread but it hasn't been moved yet. That's this one, which is not Hemerocallis fulva (wrong colour). I accidentally stumbled upon the original and it is supposed to be Hemerocallis citrina.

Sorry,Cross posted threw my theory out the window.
I see the same credit given for all three of these photos, maybe that person has a lot of mislabeled plants?

Natalie said:I really need to add that I'm not attacking bamira. He's made many wonderful contributions with the photos. I just think that the photos in the database should be of the correct plant, and if I come across one, no matter who added it, I mention it. There have been many others that were added by other people, and I've been guilty of this myself! Sometimes errors happen to the best of us.

Most of these daylily pictures that are wrong, Bamira didn't take, so someone else who took the pictures is the one who doesn't know there daylilies.

They weren't the photographers daylilies either, from what I can tell. He took the photos in the garden of botanist Robert R. Kowal in Madison, Wisconsin, according to the Wiki page.

When I saw the photo, I instantly thought of Purple Many Faces. Sure looks the same as it blooms for me. Here's a photo taken in June.

anyone else wants to throw a stone?

No stones thrown, I hope you know that.

Stefan, no stones were thrown. You asked for an open discussion, which is what we have had. Nothing bad was said against you!

Stefan - There are over 80,000 registries in the AHS database. I am sure there are more than just a few photos here on ATP that are likely in the wrong cultivar file. It's good to review these entries from time to time to ensure they are correct. Thank you for requesting an open discussion to bring this issue to the surface. The integrity of the ATP Plant Database depends on everyone here to take note of any that don't seem to match up with the written description as well as any other photos submitted.