Lilies forum: Another Unknown Oriental

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Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
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TBGDN
Jul 29, 2011 7:48 PM CST
I've had this lily around as long as I can remember, going back at least twenty years. I can't remember for sure where I got it, except possibly from one of the older mail order nurseries like Henry Fields, Gurney's or even Jackson & Perkins. Although it is nothing exceptional, I keep it because in "my eyes" it is gorgeous, is fragrant and pulls through some of the worst weather extremes. (Including this blistering heat & drought!) I have a hard time discarding anything unless it's dead. After all these years I simply call it an unknown rubrum hybrid since it looks something like the species rubrum. It has grown to seven (7) feet in good years with 8 to 10 large outward/downward facing flowers. I'm posting it here where more knowledgeable heads than mine might know something about it. If so, it would be nice to know after 20 years. Smiling


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Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Jul 29, 2011 8:02 PM CST
Leon,i have many variations of rubrum,and 1 or 2 look just the same Lovey dubby Lovey dubby a bit of extra reflexation on this one but very much the same
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM CST
I've never seen a speciocum Rubrum get that tall. Anthony, do they get that tall for you?

Leon, how big are the blooms? It's truly spectacular! And has perennialized so beautifully, definitely a keeper!
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Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
Light is the shadow of God!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: United States of America Region: Indiana Vegetable Grower
Garden Ideas: Master Level Native Plants and Wildflowers Peonies Hummingbirder Dog Lover Lilies
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TBGDN
Jul 30, 2011 3:22 PM CST
Neal, Blooms on this NOID are much, much larger than Rubrum Species. The species rarely grow more than 3-4 ft. in height with blooms half the size of this NOID. Here are some pictures that are eye-level with me of the NOID. I would guess the flowers measure about 7 or even 8 inches across, and the petals are not as tightly reflexed as the species. The species seem to nod toward the ground, and I actually held the bottom center flower up to get that picture.

NOID PICTURES

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Here are pictures of the species rubrum.

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Lux Umbra Dei
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
Plant and/or Seed Trader Hellebores Birds Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Art Cat Lover
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gwhizz
Jul 30, 2011 6:25 PM CST
possible rubrum x cassablanca cross?-good point neal,no not that tall,although 'angel rose' would get to 5+ feet.
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