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Aug 20, 2015 9:07 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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New Zealand and its white sport Full Sail are richly fragrant. Full Sail is more vigorous in my garden. Pink Peace smells good also.....
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Aug 20, 2015 9:22 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Westerland is another I've considered for a long time, I adore orange roses. Glad to see it does so well in a colder zone, and that it is fragrant!

As always, stunning photos Dirt!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 20, 2015 9:27 AM CST
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Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Love the photo bomb! I already have a bunch in that color but I guess one can never have too many!? lol
I keep trying to figure out where I'd put a climber so I can get it....
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Aug 20, 2015 1:26 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
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Meredith, it's not a large climber, so perhaps an obelisk type trellis would work.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 20, 2015 1:50 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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It likes to climb, but it's officially classified as a shrub, so you can keep it pruned to about 5-6 feet and not bother with a trellis. If you do let it climb, make sure you train the canes into the desired position early. They quickly become thick and unwieldy.
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Aug 20, 2015 1:55 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
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Oh this is good news! It gives me more options as to where to plant one!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 20, 2015 1:58 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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The same is true of Westerland's sport, Autumn Sunset. I have three of them -- two climbers and one shorter shrub. It does give you more placement options.

Rose (Rosa 'Autumn Sunset')
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Aug 21, 2015 8:22 PM CST
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Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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That's good to know, thank you to both of you. I really like the obelisk idea.
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Aug 23, 2015 8:39 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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I love Autumn Sunset and Westerland so much that I bought the new 'Above All' this year. It's a lovely shade of orange.
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Aug 24, 2015 8:28 AM CST
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Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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That looks like a beauty! Is it fragrant too?
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Aug 27, 2015 4:24 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Meredith, I don't know! When it starts blooming again, I will sniff and make a note of it!
Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get.
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Sep 3, 2015 7:15 PM CST
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Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Cat Lover Butterflies Hummingbirder Keeper of Poultry Roses
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Can't wait to find out because if it is I'm all over that one! Lovey dubby

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