Arlyn, Yes, I have heard that Indian Chief is a great grower in the garden. I'm hoping that my Helen Collingwood, and Crimson King also do well for me here. I'm really looking forward to seeing The Red Douglas in bloom, so I have my fingers crossed. The Vishnu I have I got from Superstition, and it is perhaps the best rhizome in my garden. I like Frank Adams a lot and right now it is doing very well and has grown a lot. So thanks for your input !