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As a comment about Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Aksarben'), KentPfeiffer wrote:

Registered as an Intermediate Bearded Iris, but considered to be a Tall Bearded Iris.
Name: Rob Duval
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robertduval14
Sep 4, 2015 12:52 PM CST

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When we have these cases where certain Iris cultivars are registered as one type, but are typically considered as another type (by gardening community? Iris societies?) then what are they to be listed as?

I see we are listing them as they are 'considered' rather than what they are 'registered' as...would this create confusion? (Of course, your comments that bring attention to the matter help, but you get what I'm saying).

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KentPfeiffer
Sep 4, 2015 1:43 PM CST

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Today, we recognize several classes of bearded irises (tall bearded, border bearded, standard dwarf bearded, etc. At the time the American Iris Society was organized, in 1920, these classes didn't exist in any sort of codified form. Hybridizers were actually well out in front of any classification system. In other words, hybridizers were producing what we now call Intermediate Bearded Irises (as one example) long before anyone recognized such a class. As you can imagine, whenever a new class first began to emerge, there was some confusion/disagreement about how to define it. So, in some cases, hybridizers would register an iris under a certain class, but as the class later became more precisely defined, the iris would no longer fit and be moved to another class.

It still goes on today, to a lesser degree. Paul Black is developing a line of what he calls "small flowered tbs". They are registered as Tall Bearded Irises. But, if they catch on, it's possible that AIS will one day recognize a new class called Small Flowered Tall Bearded Irises or (something like that) and Paul Black's current line would be reclassified.
Name: Rob Duval
Mason, New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Vegetable Grower Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1 Tomato Heads
Annuals Hostas Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Spiders! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US
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robertduval14
Sep 4, 2015 2:11 PM CST

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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Thumbs up

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