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Oct 11, 2015 8:44 PM CST
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Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
natalie i just trimmed tress the end of summer and still have the branches around my back yard was gonna take them to the burn pit to will this work for the dl and i have more to do to clean up and charley i took profesoras advice but i think i waited too long due to rainy cold weather we been having here today was a good day for me so i did it now ill put good leaves around them plenty of leaves i just got to rake fun fun Hurray!
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Oct 11, 2015 10:58 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Someone else will hopefully know if it is okay to put the branches on the daylilies, since I've only put leaves on mine. If the branches are very small, then I would say yes. Large branches probably wouldn't be a great idea, but maybe if you got them off the daylilies as soon as you see some growth in the Spring, it would be just fine. Hopefully someone will know for sure.
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Oct 12, 2015 6:42 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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You can put branches on daylilies but they won't offer much protection, especially if not evergreens. But I'm a bit confused Confused The plants appear to be still close to the tree and not evenly spaced apart. The general advice was to not divide them at this time of year but wait until spring. Did you actually dig them up and split the clumps, or have you just cut the leaves back? If they've just been cut you don't need to do anything else because they haven't been moved and therefore have not suffered root loss.

On that topic, just wondering Gerry and Charley, why do you bare-root them when dividing and transplanting immediately in the same garden?
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Oct 12, 2015 11:36 AM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
Don’t trust all-purpose glue.
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sooby said:You can put branches on daylilies but they won't offer much protection, especially if not evergreens. But I'm a bit confused Confused The plants appear to be still close to the tree and not evenly spaced apart. The general advice was to not divide them at this time of year but wait until spring. Did you actually dig them up and split the clumps, or have you just cut the leaves back? If they've just been cut you don't need to do anything else because they haven't been moved and therefore have not suffered root loss.

On that topic, just wondering Gerry and Charley, why do you bare-root them when dividing and transplanting immediately in the same garden?


Generally learning more about soil structure, nutrients, drainage. I dig a new hole and prepare the soil the way I like. I don't want the old soil in there with its weed seeds and ants though if I find an earthworm I gently transplant it as well. As for dividing, I find the closer I can inspect the meristem the easier it is to decide where to divide them and the easier it is to clean up the root system. They don't seem to be set back by this. Some of that may be due to keeping them wet through the whole process, some may be due to judicious application of 5-1-1 fish fertilizer..

I also put the cheese under the meat patty while my wife puts it on top of the meat patty on our hamburgers. Obviously one of us is crazy, probably me.

I may be crazy about transplanting as well.

Charley
I’d rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.
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Oct 12, 2015 11:51 AM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
Frogs and Toads Native Plants and Wildflowers Cottage Gardener Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Xeriscape
Charley, you may be just a tad bit crazy, at least about the placement of cheese on a burger. Whistling I like that in a person though. nodding Hilarious!

I've never cut off the dead roots when dividing. To me, it puts organic material into the soil, so I leave it. If it is dead, it isn't going to rot, so it can stay. Or I'm wrong about that. It has worked just fine for me, with no loss of plants when dividing. Is there a reason why the dead roots need to be removed?

I would never clean them all the way, unless I was sending them to someone else. I'd clean only enough to where I can see what I'm doing. Even then, I try to leave as much soil on the roots as I can. Just seems like a lot of extra work to me that isn't really necessary. I take the path of least resistance when gardening! Hilarious!
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Oct 12, 2015 12:40 PM CST
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Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
natalie im sorry you miss understood what i meant maybe i said it wrong what i meant was the tree branches are still full of leaves dry ones that i have in the back yard would the dry leaves work again im sorry about the misunderstanding and thanks for the response
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Oct 12, 2015 1:43 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
Frogs and Toads Native Plants and Wildflowers Cottage Gardener Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Xeriscape
No problem. That is what I was thinking - that they still had leaves on them. It was more of a concern for the weight, since I don't know how large the branches are. To me, if they are very thin branches, it would be just fine.
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Oct 12, 2015 2:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
Sooby I am not sure if you seen the mess i been dealing with I put pics up to maybe get suggestions from
other gardeners. I followed the advice of profesora and cut them back and not moved them away from
the tree as of yet. I will be moving them next spring to a sunnier spot. This is just the beginning for them poor dl. They been sitting there for 2 yrs not cared for. Ive only lived here a yr. This is my first time trying to clean up the plants and make it look decent around the house the landlord doesnt take any interests so I decided to. Anyway sorry for jabbering away here are some brfore and after pics just to show you what i been dealing with
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Oct 12, 2015 2:51 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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Thanks for clarifying, Roxy, that's what I thought it looked like you'd done. Since the plants haven't been moved then you don't need to mulch them with leaves or branches unless they're not hardy. I assume they got through last winter without any protction so they should be fine.
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Oct 12, 2015 2:52 PM CST
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Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
Another question should i used the dry leaves for mulch on the day lilies or use fresh leaves Im sorry all for all the quuestions i have like i said this is my first time and i feel like a bother to you all but thanks so much for all the advice suggestions and responses
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Oct 12, 2015 2:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
thanks sooby for responding disregard that last message i sent i didnt read what you suggested til after i sent it
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Oct 12, 2015 3:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Roxy
Union City IN (Zone 5b)
yes they did survive the winter last yr and longer i assume
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Oct 12, 2015 3:21 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
Butterflies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Sages Plant Identifier
No problem, we posted at more or less the same time so you wouldn't have seen my post.

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