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Sep 10, 2015 7:54 PM CST

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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)

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frankrichards16

Sep 10, 2015 8:32 PM CST

Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

looks like soy beans.

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Sep 10, 2015 8:37 PM CST

Thread OP

Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)

Frank, that was literally the last thing on my mind. Would it help if I broke open a seed pod and took a picture of the seeds?

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frankrichards16

Sep 11, 2015 4:29 AM CST

Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

Melanie, Sure. Or, cook in salted boiling water until tender, add some garlic and pepper... edamame!

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Sep 11, 2015 7:16 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

It reminds me of Desmodium of some sort. There are a few found in Florida. One I see around here is Creeping Tick Trefoil (Desmodium triflorum)

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| @plantladylin | Post #948990 (5)

Sep 11, 2015 7:19 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Should have added more links.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffi...

A few different species shown to be found in Fla here: http://florida.plantatlas.usf....

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| @plantladylin | Post #948995 (6)

Sep 11, 2015 8:09 AM CST

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK

The leaves don't match either soy beans or Desmodium, there is no long stalk attached to the leaflets.

Crotalaria pallida is possible.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...

http://www.southeasternflora.c...

Does it have hairs on the seed pods when young? The small point on the leaf tip is present.

| @JRsbugs | Post #949010 (7)

Sep 11, 2015 8:31 AM CST

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK

Fruit

Pods cylindrical, about 30-45 x 8-9 mm, grooved on one side, clothed in erect hairs

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-se...

| @JRsbugs | Post #949016 (8)

Sep 11, 2015 8:44 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Janet, you are so good! There are a few Crotalaria also found here in Florida:

Crotalaria alata
Crotalaria avonensis
Crotalaria incana
Crotalaria juncea
Crotalaria lanceolata
Crotalaria rotundifolia
Crotalaria spectabilis

~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!

| @plantladylin | Post #949030 (9)

Sep 11, 2015 9:20 AM CST

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK

There's more species of Crotolaria in Florida Lin, including C. pallida.

http://luirig.altervista.org/f...

The key for C. pallida gives more details which can be checked.

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-se...

Crotalaria incana looks possible..

http://herbaria.plants.ox.ac.u...

http://herbaria.plants.ox.ac.u...

| @JRsbugs | Post #949051 (10)

Sep 11, 2015 9:35 AM CST

Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Yes, there are lots of Crotalaria found in the state, many consider them weeds. I used to have one type growing in the yard years ago at our old house but never had the species identified. It A couple of years ago I found the prostrate Crotalaria rotundifolia growing along the waters edge behind our current home.

C. pallida var. obovata is found in Melanie's area: http://florida.plantatlas.usf....
as is C. incana: http://florida.plantatlas.usf....

~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!

| @plantladylin | Post #949058 (11)

Sep 11, 2015 1:14 PM CST

Thread OP

Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)

Okay guys, I just got back from the movies so I'm going to have to process all this. You guys do such great work! I'm planning another expedition out there tomorrow so I'll look at the links and if I feel I need more info or pictures, I can take them then. Today, I need one day in the air conditioning.

| @mellielong | Post #949178 (12)

flaflwrgrl

Sep 12, 2015 6:26 PM CST

Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)

Melanie, feel the leaves on it. Are they hairy? Upper or lower surface or both? Stiff hairy or soft hairy?

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| @flaflwrgrl | Post #950057 (13)

Sep 12, 2015 6:32 PM CST

Thread OP

Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)

Got rained out today. Will feel up plants, tomorrow!

| @mellielong | Post #950068 (14)

Sep 13, 2015 3:07 PM CST

Thread OP

Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)

Okay, leaves are very smooth. Not hairy on either side. Here are a lot more pictures!

| @mellielong | Post #950518 (15)

Sep 13, 2015 3:21 PM CST

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK

A key for Crotalaria for you to ponder over.

http://www.tropicalgrasslands....

Remember, keys should be followed step by step. Skipping a step doesn't work as each step is intended to eliminate other species regardless of whether other species may have the same traits later in the key.

| @JRsbugs | Post #950530 (16)