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Jan 16, 2016 4:56 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Birds Region: Kentucky Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: United States of America
My mother was a wonderful gardener as was my dad. They had about two acres and he had the veggies and she had the flowers. She had irises of all colors and traded with other garden club members. I always loved them and have pictures of my daughter standing next to irises that were as tall as she was. I remember most the huge white ones (NOID) that I still have that grow like crazy. I brought them to my first house and on to my second house as well as several others like Alcazar which I am still trying to rid myself of. In 2001 my sister sent me a package of lovely iris rhizomes for my birthday including Mary Frances, Supreme Sultan, Lacy Snowflake and several others. I managed to kill a few of them and borers took some but I love them. She passed away in 2004 from pancreatic cancer but I have tended the remaining irises lovingly. In 2007 I bought a bunch from the local society. After that I was hooked and began to mark the names and add to my collection each year. joined the Bluegrass Iris Society and even won a show in 2011. Now I am crazy like the rest of the folks on this ATP site lusting after every pretty iris I see. But my NOID white will always be with me.
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Jan 17, 2016 10:27 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
That's a beautiful Iris, Janie -- and might be exactly what Debra is looking for! @lovemyhouse -- Deb are you looking???
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Jan 17, 2016 10:49 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Years back one called America's Cup was touted as being as pure white as one could get. It's an older model, I had it, but lost it years ago.
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Jan 17, 2016 10:58 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
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I see it, Mary Ann. Beautiful flower and I see a yellow flush in the fall centers.

Tom, same thing with American's Cup (it is a beauty, too).

Thank you both for thinking of me! Smiling
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Jan 17, 2016 11:04 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I think the yellow is deep in the inner part of the beard, and not very visible.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
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Jan 20, 2016 6:15 AM CST
Name: Charlotte
Salt Lake City, Utah (Zone 7a)
genealogist specializing in French
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Since I mentioned several hybridizers in our area, I would be remiss if I didn't add two others. Tell Muhlstein was a charter member of our club. He of Snow Ballet fame and many others including Utah Valley, one of the tallest I have ever grown. Darlene Pinegar was introducing when about all I was doing was attending meetings and shows. I was very surprised to see how many she introduced, 100! Gizmo the Gremlin is hers. And I have seen others that ATP members grow.

Also should mention that the myrtle and morning glory didn't kill my iris. I periodically dug and shared and didn't get mine replanted. It was just that the whole area was filled with difficult to get rid of oplants and nowhere to plant.
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Nov 3, 2021 1:00 PM CST
Name: Timothy
NE Oregon (Zone 7b)
I happened upon this old thread and it brought back so many memories that i couldn't resist resurrecting it.
I had a elderly neighbor ' way back' 50+ years ago who had the old classics, -- Gudrun, Ola Kala, Great Lakes, Snow Flurry, Ramses, War Chief, Amethyst Flame, etc I was just a pre - teen kid who did some spring/summer work for her, and i became entraced with the colors, and different, but subtle fragrances. She shared those early varieties with me in her sweet and loving way.
I remember Charlie Nearpass, my mentor, who encouraged me to grow more cultivars, and shared some of his hybridizing wisdom, and in his irascible, grouchy way, gave me who was justa young kid, at the time, a few bedrock life principles that are still with me today.
He generously shared his Lord Baltimore, Jealous Lover, Spinning Wheel, Cliffs of Dover, Country Music, Homeward Bound, and a few others, with me. I was thrilled to death, and the iris "die was cast".
Although i haven't always had the space and means to enjoy my hobby, its been a lifelong pastime that i still enjoy to this day.
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Nov 3, 2021 3:00 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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My families' backyard neighbor in WI grew iris. They covered his backyard. As a child I used to stand on the bottom rung of our picket fence & talk to him. I didn't know which iris they were, but remember a pink one. It must have been one of David Hall's.

John's grandmother grew 'early irises'. They must have been the early SDBs. We started with Green Spot & Twice Blessed in our small garden.
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Nov 5, 2021 1:05 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
Amaryllis Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Maryland Peonies Organic Gardener Irises
Herbs Hellebores Growing under artificial light Container Gardener Cat Lover Garden Photography
My mother had wonderful gardens, containing daffodils, grape hyacinths, spanish bluebells, azaleas, lilacs, Virginia bluebells, trillium (giant white), daylilies, roses, asters, chrysanthemums, and many other things. But most of all I loved her iris. She had Wabash, Ola kala, Helen McGregor, William Setchell, and many more. Even as a small child, I helped her weed her garden, quickly learning which were the weeds and which were the various flowers, She would receive Schreiners catalog and both of us would delight in poring over it, naming our favorites.

I was forty by the time Hubby and I bought this house. Within a year I was already creating my gardens. I can recall about that time Dave Barry wrote something to the effect of, "Don't ever let the rototiller know you're afraid of it." Well, I didn't. We rented one and I bravely set about tilling my outlined garden space. And that dang thing pulled me into the rose of sharon trees so many times that I was black and blue all over!

The first irises of my own were Dusky Challenger, Jesse's Song, Skating Party, and Beverly Sills, with a bonus of what I now think was Bubbling Over. They were all beauties, but 7 years later an autoimmune disease struck me down. For about a decade I neglected my iris, and during that decade they all died but the bonus, which by then had also lost its label.

When my husband finally retired a few years ago and could help me then with some of the heavier tasks of gardening, I began again. By then deer and groundhogs had moved into the neighborhood and were decimating almost all my perennials except for my last remaining iris clump. That's when I decided to build a new garden, based mostly on irises. And here I am with about 56 cultivars in my Have list, and way too many in my Want list. Whistling
-"If I can’t drain a swamp, I’ll go pull some weeds." - Charles Williams
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Nov 5, 2021 1:56 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
My first irises we're the ones my mother had in the yard sprinkled around. One of my favorites was a purple one. It was a noid.
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Nov 6, 2021 6:16 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
I'm glad you have managed to re-establish your gardens Daisy Thumbs up .
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Nov 7, 2021 8:30 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
Amaryllis Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Maryland Peonies Organic Gardener Irises
Herbs Hellebores Growing under artificial light Container Gardener Cat Lover Garden Photography
Thank you, Robin.
-"If I can’t drain a swamp, I’ll go pull some weeds." - Charles Williams
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Nov 7, 2021 9:31 PM CST
Name: Derylin
Louisville ,Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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In 1980-81 My friend Jane's father gave me 3 iris plus some daylilies.I was into gardening in the early 70's but not iris.
The color of the iris he gave me were a pink a,brownish golden color and I am pretty sure Wabash.I still have 2 of the three..
From 1988- through the mid 90's I ordered from Schreiner's and Cooley's and had about 105 different TB iris.
Then my trees grew and all my iris died from lack of sun except the 3 original iris.
I went to work in 1992 while working on my Master's at night ,was raising 4 kids as a widow ,running a paper route for extra money and didn't have the time for iris.I lost my husband in 1979 at age 33 in a car accident.However,the love for iris was always there.
In 2010, after I retired 3 years earlier as a clinical therapist , My local electric company cut my trees down because they were under the power lines.I then started buying iris ,and now have approximately 400 different variety TB's.
I just can't seem to ever have enough iris.I will be the first to admit I have a true addiction for iris- and I will NEVER be in recovery!😁
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Nov 7, 2021 9:55 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
creativeclover said:My first irises we're the ones my mother had in the yard sprinkled around. One of my favorites was a purple one. It was a noid.

The purple Iris. As tall as I was and brilliant vibrant blue/purple with a gold beard. Is that the one?
I can't find that Iris anywhere. I figured out about the size but the color, I am still searching.
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Nov 8, 2021 12:31 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
Amaryllis Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Maryland Peonies Organic Gardener Irises
Herbs Hellebores Growing under artificial light Container Gardener Cat Lover Garden Photography
Ratchet, could have it been William A Setchell?



It was one of my very favorites in my mothers 1950s garden. The flowers were much bigger than the others of that age, and it smelled of Concord grapes.
-"If I can’t drain a swamp, I’ll go pull some weeds." - Charles Williams
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Nov 8, 2021 4:15 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Ratchet, the one that was in the yard for a purple was similar to crimson king.

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Nov 8, 2021 10:26 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
DaisyDo said:Ratchet, could have it been William A Setchell?

Daisy, that could be it. I will order that iris next year. I know it will not seem as tall but that certainly could have been the vibrant blue color.
Richard, I have Crimson King and it might bloom next year. Crimson King has a white or gray beard if you can remember that feature.
I remember our Iris had a distinctive gold beard.
Many of the blues are distinguished by two features, self, bitone and beard color.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:31 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
Double Post, sorry
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Nov 9, 2021 4:17 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Ratchet, it has a yellowish beard that goes into white from what I can remember.
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Nov 9, 2021 10:23 AM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
I looked at Amas, Crimson King, William A Setchell.
Amas and William are yellow beard. Crimson King is white.
However, it seems to be a matter of how far down the fall the color of the beard extends. I looked at photos from the Historic Society and Garden Org. For example Crimson King, the color is yellow in the throat and the beard is white further out. I am not certain but that "throat" may be correctly called "claw."
Some Iris, the color is definite all the way yellow but with the Historics, it seems as if they are all yellow at the beginning and then are differentiated by when or if the beard becomes white.
Maybe someone who has more knowledge will post about beards because it is the single distinguishing feature among some of the oldies.

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