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Name: Greg Richardson
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Gregory
Nov 15, 2015 7:44 AM CST
Does anybody know if the USDA has released any new Ebony Crapemyrtles since the original five were released in 2013?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Nov 15, 2015 8:27 AM CST

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No. The original five are all the USDA has released.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/dave/1396/Solving-the-Mystery-o...

There are several new child plants of this series that have entered the market. These three are recently released by J. Berry Nursery and were bred from the Ebony series:

Crepe Myrtle (Lagerstroemia Black Diamond® Shell Pink™)
Crepe Myrtle (Lagerstroemia Black Diamond® Purely Purple™)
Crape Myrtle (Lagerstroemia Black Diamond® Mystic Magenta™)

There are numerous others, too. I have personally developed several new colors (a watermelon and a purple) from the Ebony series but those currently only exist in my garden. Smiling
Name: Greg Richardson
NE Texas
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Gregory
Nov 15, 2015 9:34 AM CST
So a nursery ( I do not know if I can name names; so I won't), is advertising an "Ebony Rose Crapemyrtle". They say it is a recent release by the US National Arboretum, but I cannot find anything about the Ebony Rose, nor can I find anything to suggest a second release from the USDA. Any ideas?
Name: Greg Richardson
NE Texas
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Gregory
Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM CST
Actually, I just realized that we are putting Black Diamond's name on the forum, so I guess it is OK. Here is a link to Garden Debut; http://www.gardendebut.com/plant/Ebony-Rose.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Nov 16, 2015 6:22 AM CST

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Yes, it's perfectly fine to name company's in this forum.

That's an interesting claim that Garden Debut is making. I just now sent an email to Dr. Pounders (the developer of the five original Ebony crepe myrtles) asking him whether this 'Ebony Rose' is his creation or not. I'll reply here when I get a response.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Nov 16, 2015 6:27 AM CST

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Well, my email to Dr. Pounders bounced. I'm contacting a few others that may know.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Nov 16, 2015 7:23 AM CST

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I asked Allen Owings (research coordinator at LSU AgCenter) and he said:

Looks like garden debut has the white, blush, and two of the reds (there are three, as you know) and this "NEW" one. Sure looks like the Ebony Pink to me. The agreement between USDA and Dr Pounders and MS State was that Ebony Pink was not released and is not supposed to be in the trade or being sold - at least that is my understanding but a few people do have plants of it.
Name: Greg Richardson
NE Texas
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Gregory
Nov 16, 2015 7:35 AM CST
Thank You!
I wonder if the Ebony Pink is not released yet because it is still being tested, or if it failed to meet standards and was never supposed to be released.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Nov 16, 2015 5:13 PM CST

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I wondered that, too, and don't know.
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Nov 16, 2015 7:38 PM CST
When I looked at the link Greg posted, there was a list on the right side that included "meet the breeder." When clicked on. it takes you to the listings for the Ebony Crapemyrtles and at the top of the page the name Dow Whiting. No other info, but as Dave said, Dr Cecil Pounders is the developer of the original Ebony series.

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