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yeonghuei
Nov 26, 2015 9:12 PM CST
Hi,

I was given a creeper plant by my colleague but neither of us have any idea what's its called.

I have attached a photo of the plant and hopefully someone know its species.

Regards,

Yeong Huei
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Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 27, 2015 12:55 AM CST
Welcome! to ATP yeonghuei,
Your plant looks very healthy. I can only make a guess. It appears there are whorls of 3 leaves at each node. It could possibly be a type of Peperomia. Someone with more knowledge may come along with better information.

Please can you tell me where this plant is growing. What is your location? Thank You!
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yeonghuei
Nov 27, 2015 3:15 AM CST
Hi Greene,

Thanks for the warm welcome. This is my first plant actually haha.

Anyway, I am in Singapore but I hope it is a native plant.

Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Nov 27, 2015 5:49 AM CST
Welcome! yeonghuei
Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 27, 2015 9:16 AM CST
If it turns out to be a Peperomia, it may be an introduced plant to Singapore.
Try to look at these to see if there is a similarity:
P. hoffmannii, whorl of 3 leaves at node: http://succulent-plant.com/families/piperaceae.html

( *Blush* I aplogize; my computer is too slow today to add more links for the others.)

P. catherinae
P. isabella
P. deppeana
P. pellucida
P. verticillata
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JRsbugs
Nov 27, 2015 9:18 AM CST
Welcome!

Singapore’s Rare Pipers:

https://mygreenspace.nparks.gov.sg/singapores-rare-pipers/

None of the above appear to have whorled leaves, your plant does appear to have whorls of three leaves.

Verhuellia is a Piperaceae genus of three species, known from very few collections and localities on Cuba and Hispaniola (Haiti and Dominican Republic). It is a small, herbaceous, saxicolous perennial with monopodial architecture, whorled leaves and perianthless flowers organized in solitary lateral spikes (Fig. 1).


http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2010/03/17/aob.m...

Peperomia is another huge genus with between 1600 and 1800 species


http://blogs.reading.ac.uk/tropical-biodiversity/2013/04/pip...

I found one which has whorls but it appears to have 4 leaves to a whorl, Peperomia tetraphylla but given the number of species it could be difficult to say which it is. Take note of the venation with a single deep vein either side of the central vein, radiating from the base of the leaf to near the tip. The leaves on your plant don't appear to be succulent.

http://www.mi-aime-a-ou.com/peperomia_tetraphylla.php

http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/plants/pipe/piperac...

Name: Dave Paul
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Metrosideros
Nov 28, 2015 12:08 PM CST
Need to see a mature plant, but maybe Piper nigrum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pepper
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JRsbugs
Nov 28, 2015 1:32 PM CST
Does Piper nigrum have whorled leaves Dave? I can only find illustrations or photos showing two opposite leaves.

http://www.botanical-online.com/english/pepper.htm

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JRsbugs
Nov 28, 2015 2:05 PM CST
Key to genera:

Tall climber - Leaves alternate: Piper
Small succulent herbs - Leaves opposite or whorled: Pepperomia.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6DakHzJefl8C&pg=PA99&lpg...

This is flora of the Sydney region, if the key relates to all Piperaceae then the drawings of Piper nigrum are wrong, Tropicas shows them as alternate.

http://www.tropicos.org/Name/25000013?tab=images

Piper with whorls of three, Piper polystachyon has three-nerved leaves. Note that the 's' is the historic 'f' shape.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AFwMAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA500&lp...

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Gr1aAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA178&lp...

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greene
Nov 28, 2015 7:07 PM CST
Have we already looked at Peperomia trifolia?
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JRsbugs
Nov 28, 2015 7:40 PM CST
I found a specimen of Piper polystachyon, it looks a good match although with so many species it can't be certain unless no other specie has the same shaped leaves, whorled leaves in threes and three-nerved leaves. The specimen is from Jamaica.

http://ww2.bgbm.org/herbarium/specimen.cfm?SpecimenPK=47&idT...

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/11629/HERBAR_BGBM_GERM...
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JRsbugs
Nov 28, 2015 7:51 PM CST
Peperomia trifolia does have three-veined leaves but the outer veins appear to stop short of the leaf margin, the veins on the plant in question look to go to the outer margins near the tip. The leaves are quite rounded on P. trifolia.

http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustrati...
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Metrosideros
Nov 28, 2015 10:21 PM CST
My Piper nigrum plants are mostly alternate, with a few variations on the same plant. The same with Piper betel. Piper methysticum all alternate.

An inmature plant may not show all the nerves that a mature plant shows.


yeonghuei
Nov 29, 2015 9:36 PM CST
Hi guys,

Wow thank you all for the suggestions. The nearest resemblance seems to be Peperomia trifolia only it doesn't have the long "bulbs" like at the tip. Perhaps it's just not mature enough yet.
Name: Dave Paul
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Metrosideros
Nov 30, 2015 11:54 AM CST
Seeing a mature plant with flowers / fruit will help with ID.

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