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Jan 26, 2016 4:23 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
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And my new shower is the same drain as the one that got plugged when I tried to bottom-water some seedlings.

No, that takes it farther off-topic.

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Feb 1, 2016 4:43 PM CST
Name: Ric Sanders
Dover, Pa. (Zone 6b)
And his children Are his flowers ..
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I don't understand the odors either. Most of the cleaners and glues smell like acetone to me. Shrug!
Silicone he may have used, I think smells like acetic acid, and can take days to fully cure. That could be responsible for you lingering odor.
Ric of MAF @ DG
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Feb 1, 2016 5:12 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
>> acetic acid,

It was a little like that. My last impression was "like a gas station", so perhaps benzene instead of diesel fuel.

Acetic acid sounds so likely that I'm inclined to say I must have mis--smelled it.
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Feb 1, 2016 5:56 PM CST
Name: Ric Sanders
Dover, Pa. (Zone 6b)
And his children Are his flowers ..
Birds Seed Starter Keeper of Poultry Ponds Region: Pennsylvania Greenhouse
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Not an uncommon mix up. Benzene, gasoline, fuel.
I worked haz mats for years and having a good nose was an asset. Never in my case, but in some, a lifesaver.
Ric of MAF @ DG
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Feb 1, 2016 6:34 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I used to work in a chemical plant.

One night I cam back to the office in OUR building and mentioned the wonderful smell of fresh-mown grass outside.

The chief instantly went relatively pale and ran to the phone to tell the other building about their leak

(Was it phosgene? I forget. They used one-ton cylinders of phosgene and one guy, before my time, managed to UNSCREW the whole valve assembly when he thought he was tightening it. Luckily he was wearing full protective gear and the wind was away from town that night.)

When dilute, it smelled great. It didn't rip your lungs out until it got thicker. I was just lucky with the wind.

They also used cyanide in that building. "If you see anyone go down on one knee, RUN AWAY!"
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Feb 1, 2016 9:33 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Acetic acid and diesel fuel don't smell ANYTHING alike to me... Sticking tongue out (Maybe working in the chemical plant affected your nose, Rick? -- and maybe Ric, too??)
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Feb 2, 2016 11:25 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
>> (Maybe working in the chemical plant affected your nose, Rick?

Very possibly. With "normal" smells, my sniffer is very weak. What it smelled most like was a gasoline station - maybe a 1960s gas station. Except for knowing that diesel fuel would not be in any pipe-gluing concoctions, my guesses would be, in order: diesel, benzene, acetic acid.
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Feb 2, 2016 11:32 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I can't imagine why any plumber would use silicone to glue PVC pipes. In fact, in all my years I have never seen that done. Even my lean-to greenhouse, whose bones are all PVC pipe, has every connection glued by primer/PVC glue or where there are 3-way and 4-way metal connectors, screws hold it in place.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Feb 2, 2016 11:46 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I have no idea either - what he used or why it still can be smelled a little, weeks later.
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Feb 2, 2016 12:30 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I think I know what you and I would do in this situation, Rick. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Feb 2, 2016 4:12 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I wonder if it was some sort of solvent that was used for cleaning something up? But it still doesn't seem like the odor would last so long, unless there's a saturated rag that got left behind...
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Weedwhacker said:I wonder if it was some sort of solvent that was used for cleaning something up? But it still doesn't seem like the odor would last so long, unless there's a saturated rag that got left behind...


Yes, and somehow it got left INSIDE the water pipes. (???) I think he would have to rip the whole shower out to get at the pipes again, unless he can cut through the insulation under the house. I think "live with it". is the only solution.

Or maybe waste a lot of water letting it flush out. However, it acts like it has to leach slowly out of something and into the water. Then, the first few gallons smell more or less bad.

At least I can ask him: "What IS this smell?"

I'll be able to ask him about it ... if he ever responds to my phone message.
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Feb 2, 2016 9:06 PM CST
Name: Lucky
Sacramento CA (Zone 9b)
Plumerias
From experience, when I put my Marble shower walls up in my bathroom I used 100% silicone and I could smell the silicone for a month.
I kept my bathroom window open but it still didn't alleviate all the smell.
Lucky Patrick
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Feb 3, 2016 12:39 AM CST
Name: Ric Sanders
Dover, Pa. (Zone 6b)
And his children Are his flowers ..
Birds Seed Starter Keeper of Poultry Ponds Region: Pennsylvania Greenhouse
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luckyzl230 said:From experience, when I put my Marble shower walls up in my bathroom I used 100% silicone and I could smell the silicone for a month.
I kept my bathroom window open but it still didn't alleviate all the smell.

Exactly my point. He may have used the silicon in the repairs, not the plumbing; and plumbers silicon, as used on o-rings and inserting new faucet cartridges, has no taste or smell.
Ric of MAF @ DG
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Feb 3, 2016 5:19 AM CST
Name: Lucky
Sacramento CA (Zone 9b)
Plumerias
When I remolded my bathroom this summer I did everything from the tile on the floor to the texture on the walls.
When putting my faucet on granite vanity top the directions strictly said to use silicone. But, there is a type of plumbers putty that is strictly for granite. Which is what I used.

Also, when cleaning up 100% silicone you can't use just water. You have to use mineral spirit to clean it up.
I'm not sure if he left a rag (paper towel) behind with mineral spirit and silicone on it.

On another note, a friend of mine back in the day used silicone on threaded pipes instead of Teflon tape. Worked just fine until it came to changing them out.
Lucky Patrick
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Feb 3, 2016 9:25 AM CST
Name: Ric Sanders
Dover, Pa. (Zone 6b)
And his children Are his flowers ..
Birds Seed Starter Keeper of Poultry Ponds Region: Pennsylvania Greenhouse
Garden Art Dog Lover Cottage Gardener Butterflies Vegetable Grower Garden Ideas: Master Level
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Had a friend once try Mohawk gasket cement on pipe threads. Hilarious! Big mistake!
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