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Orange County, CA (Zone 10a)
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maxcaviar
Jan 16, 2016 4:33 PM CST
Just wanted to post 2 shots of a couple nasturtiums in my yard. One quite healthy and one rather meek, both from the same 6-pack but planted in different spots. The 'nasty to nasturtiums' adage rings so true. The meek plant with scant foliage is mostly flowers (by mass) while the healthy one is dominated by leaves.
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CarolineScott
Jan 16, 2016 5:02 PM CST
The soil must be nitrogen rich for the one with all the leaves.
And less fertile for the other.
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Weedwhacker
Jan 16, 2016 7:40 PM CST
I love nasturtiums... and I have to admit I'd rather see them with lots of leaves even if it means fewer flowers.
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maxcaviar
Jan 18, 2016 4:17 PM CST
yeah, the leaves are interesting unto themselves. they remind me of lily pads. they look like they are floating in air sometimes given the way the leaves largely conceal the stems beneath them.
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Bonehead
Jan 18, 2016 4:49 PM CST
And so fun to show the little ones how to suck the peppery nectar out of the flowers!
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Weedwhacker
Jan 18, 2016 5:07 PM CST
The young leaves are tasty, too -- and it seems that I've read you can pickle (or something?) the seeds to use like capers... I'm going to have to look that up!
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Bonehead
Jan 18, 2016 6:24 PM CST
Yes, I've seen that as well. Never tried it, because really, how many capers does a person go through? I think one little bottle lasts me at least a year. But perhaps if I had a ready supply I'd use them more often. Here's a recipe (untried): http://www.plantea.com/nasturtium.htm
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Weedwhacker
Jan 18, 2016 9:53 PM CST
Thanks for the link, Deb! In full disclosure -- I have NEVER used capers in anything *Blush* But hey! if I can grow my own...
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KarenHolt
Jan 18, 2016 10:01 PM CST
I'd rather have the seeds to replant next year. I thought about capers but prefer the nasturtiums.
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Jan 18, 2016 10:16 PM CST
Well, they DO make a lot of seeds, Karen... and, like Deb said, how many capers does a person use? Hilarious!
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maxcaviar
Jan 19, 2016 11:09 AM CST
i hadn't heard of sucking out the nectar before. i've only heard that the flowers are edible (yet to try). i did try a baby leaf now long ago but it had very little flavor. i cook quite a bit and anticipate giving it a try in some dish/salad eventually.
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KarenHolt
Jan 19, 2016 12:38 PM CST
Max I tasted them last year because I was going to add it to a salad. Wasn't worth it to me. I'll just enjoy planting them and looking at them. I just love those things.
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freedombel
Jan 19, 2016 6:52 PM CST
KarenHolt said:Max I tasted them last year because I was going to add it to a salad. Wasn't worth it to me. I'll just enjoy planting them and looking at them. I just love those things.


I like them too, pretty, easy to grow. Don`t remember for sure, but seems like I read somewhere they do good in poor
soil and lack of fertilizer. I had a poor soil small slope off my front driveway and use to toss seeds all over in there
and they grew just fine.

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plantmanager
Jan 19, 2016 9:49 PM CST
I love nasturtiums and have just planted a few for the first time in about 20 years. I used to use the flowers and young leaves in salads. I'm not a big fan of capers. I wonder if anyone knows whether deer or rabbits will eat them? I'm having troubles finding plants that won't be eaten.
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Weedwhacker
Jan 19, 2016 10:42 PM CST
Karen, nasturtiums are in the "seldom severely damaged" category, as far as deer go, according to a list that I downloaded from this Rutgers Univ. site: https://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/publication.asp?pid=e271 (there's a button to click to download the PDF)
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plantmanager
Jan 19, 2016 10:43 PM CST
Thanks for that. I'm hoping I can have some this summer. I'll save that link.
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KarenHolt
Jan 20, 2016 9:14 PM CST
I have rabbit problems but they have never eaten mine. I think your good to go on that front.
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plantmanager
Jan 20, 2016 9:17 PM CST
Thanks, Karen. I'm starting to grow some now, and will be putting them out later. I know they're supposed to be hard to transplant, but I'm going to try it rather than planting them where I want them.
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maxcaviar
Jan 21, 2016 11:55 AM CST
i had 6 plugs from a local nursery and they all took off without a hitch. they were put in the ground in late nov. or early dec., which i don't think is the optimal time for transplanting - - but of course i could be wrong
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plantmanager
Jan 21, 2016 12:49 PM CST
That was probably fine for your area. Glad they worked out! I'll probably put mine out in March here.
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