@pmb2005 My spicebushes are seeds, got them from a trade. I checked my WS jugs a few days ago and there was nothing on any of them. We are getting lots of snow now, it's over a foot I know that! I have grown Nasturtium before, last year was my first time and I fell in love!! I only had 2 plants and they got huge! So I will find another spot for them but I look forward to having them again. If I have success on the spicebush I will let you know and if I get seeds I will send you some Send me a quick message so I don't forget

When you say Spicebush are you referring to Lindera or Calycanthus? (Or something else?)
A couple of years ago a few of the piggies did an experiment with Calycanthus floridus from seeds collected from both the species and a couple of cultivars. My winter sown seeds germinated after a couple of months. As I recall the seeds I soaked and planted on a heat mat germinated in a matter of days. I think we each had 2-3 seeds of each type. All of my species seeds germinated regardless of sowing method. One of the cultivars seeds never germinated, at least not the first season and I did not have the patience to wait for another winter to break dormancy. I ended up keeping one of the resulting seedlings and despite neglect and abuse it has grown too big for it's allotted space. I think I will have to move it later this month.

I don't know what which one I have it was just sent as Spicebush

My Spicebushes are Lindera benzoin. You need male and female to make berries, which is why I keep going after this beautiful native. Recently I have seen some Holly Trees loaded with berries on my route. They are so beautiful!

One of my favorite times to walk through a Maryland woods is in April, when the flowers of Lindera benzoin are blooming, and their delicate fragrance of lemon & honey pervades the woods. The tiny flowers, themselves, make a haze of lemon-yellow in the dappled light.