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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Jan 23, 2016 12:39 AM CST
This is not Agave parryi but another agave.... do you have any idea what to call it? Otherwise I guess it should be moved to the generic agave entry.
Name: Thijs van Soest
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mcvansoest
Jan 23, 2016 10:01 AM CST
I concur with Baja - this is not Agave parryi. It looks like Agave multifilifera, but the Agaves with the filaments are not always easy to keep apart.
Name: Lynne
Houston, TX. Zone 9b (Zone 9b)
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LynneHTx
Jan 30, 2016 1:25 AM CST
This is my plant. I posted it several years ago to Agave Leopoldii. In fact I thought I submitted it as a new entry and it was accepted. Looks like they combined two entries into one. Here is more information on the plant. http://www.yuccado.com/agave-x-leopoldii-hammer-time.html. Yuccado is a very expert nursery specializing in these plants. Here is some more info http://plantlust.com/plants/agave-x-leopoldii-hammer-time/

Someone has combined the two plants and placed Leopoldii as a synonym for parryi. They are two different plants and I don't think should have been combined.
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Name: Thijs van Soest
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mcvansoest
Jan 30, 2016 10:36 AM CST
Hi Lynne,

you are absolutely right! One of a very pretty but similar looking bunch.

I think the confusion must have arisen if you look back into the history of synonyms and there is an Agave leopoldii synonym associated with A. parryi, so maybe that is why the plants got merged and there is a chance because Agave x leopoldii is a hybrid that is not an officially recognized name - It looks like that is exactly what is going on. I think we should make an effort to get these plants separated again.

Of course at that point it should be classified as a hybrid with parents: A. filifera x A. schidigera.
Name: Lynne
Houston, TX. Zone 9b (Zone 9b)
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LynneHTx
Jan 30, 2016 1:04 PM CST
@zuzu. Can you please help?
Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Jan 30, 2016 1:55 PM CST
This is the third example I've found of an agave which is listed wrong in the database. Thijs is absolutely correct.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 30, 2016 2:22 PM CST

Plants Admin

This plant was added as Agave leopoldii in April 2015. When I updated the Agave entries earlier this month, I learned that A. leopoldii is classified as a synonym for A. parryi, so I made the correction in the entry.

It's true that this plant is listed all over the Internet as Agave x leopoldii, but this hybrid taxon is not an accepted botanical name because it is a man-made hybrid rather than a spontaneous one that occurred in the wild.

I've now corrected the entry by removing the species name. The plant is now listed as a hybrid agave. Any other "x leopoldii" plants in our database can be corrected in the same way, either by moving them to the generic entry if there is no cultivar name or by deleting the species name if there is a cultivar name.
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Hummingbirder Native Plants and Wildflowers Garden Photography Region: Mexico Plant Identifier
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Baja_Costero
Jan 30, 2016 2:32 PM CST
Thank you for sorting this out, zuzu, and for the explanation about the hybrid names.

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