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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 25, 2016 6:13 PM CST

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A wonderful list from our ATP database showing many different species and hybrids of what was once named Jovibarba (Genus) and is now Sempervivum (Genus).
http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=rollers&button=

Here are a few photos I took today 1/25/2016. As you can see there can be dramatic differences in the species and hybrids of the interesting plant.





A link with some interesting information on how to tell them apart from the other Sempervivum species.
http://garden.org/ideas/view/valleylynn/1230/Sempervivum-101...

What are yours looking like this time of year?
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Jan 25, 2016 9:06 PM CST
Rollers (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. arenarium 'from Murtal')
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11/24/2015
Sempervivum globiferum subsp. allionii 'from Aione'


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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jan 25, 2016 9:10 PM CST

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Great photos Julia.
Look at all that red on your Sempervivum globiferum subsp. arenarium 'from Murtal'.
That one has done very well for me over the years, as has the one from Aione.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jan 25, 2016 9:39 PM CST
They are prolific. I don't have that many because for some reason I like the Heuffs better.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 25, 2016 9:46 PM CST

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I wouldn't want to be without the rollers, they make me smile every time I look at them.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jan 25, 2016 9:51 PM CST
They do make some nice color during the seasons.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 25, 2016 10:52 PM CST

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And they work well in tight spots, on rocks, between rocks.
Name: Patty
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Patty
Jan 26, 2016 2:37 AM CST
Murtal Lovey dubby
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 26, 2016 9:52 AM CST

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Oh yes, nice choice Patty.
I need to go out and check on that one.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jan 27, 2016 12:02 AM CST
Totally lovely all of them! I will have to check mine out later in the week! Thumbs up
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Name: Wolfgang Bleicher
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turini
Jan 27, 2016 6:22 AM CST
Patty,
'Murtal' means in English: Valley of the river Mur.

The river Mur is in Austria, in the province of Styria (Steiermark).

In that Murtal there grow several Semps in the environment, like S. pittonii and S. montanum ssp. stiriacum.

And another roller, the Sempervivum globiferum ssp. hirtum (hillebrandtii) from Gulsenberg.
Gulsenberg means Mount Gulsen (from where we know the S. pittonii as well). This mountain is in the 'Murtal' too.

This is S. globiferum ssp. hirtum (hillebrandtii) from Gulsenberg, a wild form, only to be found on a small place (like pittonii):
10/29/2015
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 27, 2016 8:57 AM CST

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Here is an entry for your photo Wolfgang.
Roller (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum 'from Gulsenberg')
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jan 27, 2016 11:51 AM CST
Love that information. Thank You!
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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jan 27, 2016 6:12 PM CST
I agree thanks for info Wolfgang!
Here are my entries for the 'roller's' category I was lazy so I just left the label in the pics so you can see what is what! Thumbs up
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I tip my hat to you.
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 27, 2016 6:46 PM CST

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Awesome Greg. Hurray!
Name: Patty
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Patty
Jan 27, 2016 8:20 PM CST
Thanks Wolfgang! I like knowing the plant and name histories Thumbs up
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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Jan 28, 2016 4:06 AM CST

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Here are some pictures of mine (obviously not taken recently, since they're under 2 ft. of snow!)

s. globiferum subsp. hirtum 'Emerald Spring'
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s. globiferum subsp. globiferum 'Madame Lorene' - This one gets pretty large for a roller, up to 3" diameter.
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s. globiferum subsp. hirtum 'Astrid'
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s. globiferum subsp. hirtum 'from Baba Mare'
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s. globiferum subsp. pressianum 'from Belianske Tatras'
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Name: Wolfgang Bleicher
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turini
Jan 28, 2016 6:42 AM CST
Today I looked after my rollers.

They do well. Here two different types of 'allionii'. Pics shot today:

Sempervivum globiferum ssp. allionii 'from France':
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Sempervivum globiferum ssp. allionii 'from Gorges sup. du Cians':


Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jan 28, 2016 8:58 AM CST

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Here you go Wolfgang Roller (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. allionii 'from Gorges sup. du Cians')

Great photos Chris and Wolfgang.

Wolfgang, what is your favorite roller, one that stands out from the rest?
Name: Wolfgang Bleicher
Germany / Bavaria (Zone 7a)
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turini
Jan 28, 2016 9:19 AM CST
Lynn,

there are so many nice rollers. Hard to say, which I like best.

There are two interesting cultivars in my collection, which I can recommend.

First this one, I got with the name Sempervivum globiferum ssp. hirtum 'Purpurea':
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and the other one is a cultivar from Sue Thomas (UK). It's 'Autumn Fire':
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