Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Question on how and when to repot succlent

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Name: John
Thibodaux, La. (Zone 9a)
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anole
Jan 30, 2016 7:22 PM CST
This is a plant I bought at Lowes about 2 years ago, it has outgrown its pot and has several pups. Question- when is the best time to repot and should I separate the pups? Do I have to let the pups callous over? Lastly, can someone give me an ID?
thanks for all your help.

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mcvansoest
Jan 30, 2016 8:02 PM CST
You can definitely separate the pups when repotting, just pull them apart carefully. They may already have some of their own roots which will help them along well. If there are any obvious wounds in the plant or any of the roots were broken off, clean as much remaining soil off them as possible, keep them drive and give them a few days to heal over before sticking the plants in new soil. If the pups have no roots at all keep them dry for a good while - no roots means that water really only encourages rot...

When to repot: well, here in Arizona I only hold off if I know there is 'cold' weather in the forecast, but other than that I usually go ahead and do it whenever, especially if just sticking the plant in a bigger pot and adding new soil. If I know I need to mess with the roots - because of separating pups or worry about some kind of disease I tend to hold off when the plant is dormant and/or night time lows are low <50F.

I am sure there are others that can provide you their insight.

As to the ID: I think this is a similar plant to the Haworthia post in the Plant ID forum so I would suggest some kind of Gasteraloe (Gasteria x Aloe hybrid) or maybe an Alworthia (Aloe x Haworthia hybrid).... but I suspect the former.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Jan 30, 2016 8:29 PM CST
I typically wait too for the better temps of Spring. Most succulents by then are back to their active growing vigor. And it is easier to dry off and callus the plant and avoid cold damage. If there is an open wound or cut after you separate the pups , I carefully apply cinnamon on it for protection, it is a natural fungicide. Apply it on the open cut, avoid the roots. I also usually try to wait if possible for the pup to be at least half way the size of mommy, so it has good energy.But they are such slow growers so make sure your container to repot is not too deep or too big for it.

If my original container is wide enough, I just allow the succulent to make a nice colony there with its pups, they do make a nice specimen altogether..but if it is like yours, then I have to repot, they are getting too tight there.
Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Jan 30, 2016 9:34 PM CST
If you think your plant is getting too big, pull off the pups. If you like it the way it is, put the whole plant in a bigger pot. No one is separating these plants out in the desert - you don't need to either. I personally like the big overcrowded plant look.

The best time to repot a cactus or succulent is in the spring just as they start to grow. Succulents can get pretty crowded before they need repotting. I love the look of yours and would leave it alone unless the pot is tipping over from the weight.

Out in the desert, there is constant competition for water and nutrients. The roots spread out just under the surface of the soil and the plant absorbs ever drop of water that comes its way.
(in fact, cactus and succulents have no shut off valves like other plants do. They think that they need every bit of moisture that comes their way). So, you are the goddess (or god) of the garden. Everything you give your cactus or succulent will be greedily used. So be stingy - hold back.

And, in that pot you have confined this plant with free ranging roots to, every drop matters. Under pot and watch the water.

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Stush2019
Jan 31, 2016 1:24 PM CST
Hello, and your plant is a Haworthia reinwardtii fa. kaffirdriftensis. Closely related to Haworthia coarctata whose leaves are shorted and tighter. It's leaves are a little longer than typical due to lack of direct sun (not needed). Can tell by the light green en-longed leaves. It's one I plan to add to my collection but hasn't done so yet. If it was mine, I'd leave it alone. Looks good growing in that pot. If over potted, if overwatered, it will loose it's roots. It regrows them fast.
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Name: John
Thibodaux, La. (Zone 9a)
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anole
Jan 31, 2016 4:51 PM CST
Thanks all for the helpful information on this plant. I will wait until spring to decide what to do. I am tempted to leave in the pot and see what happens and then again I may repot in a slightly larger pot. Decisions, decisions.....
thanks again for the info and id.

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Name: Thijs van Soest
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mcvansoest
Jan 31, 2016 5:27 PM CST
Sorry, but the plant in the OP is not Haworthia reinwardtii fa. kaffirdriftensis. That Haworthia, as many of them do, has a raised leaf structure where the white markings are. The plant in the OP does not have that. The plant in the OP also has marginal teeth, which H. reinwarhtii does not have either.
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Baja_Costero
Jan 31, 2016 6:24 PM CST
If I had to guess I'd say an intergeneric hybrid with Aloe aristata as one of its parents.
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Stush2019
Feb 2, 2016 1:23 PM CST
I might have jumped the gun so to speak. It does look simular to my Aloe Aristata. Her plant is a stacker so I looked at the stacker's first.
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Feb 2, 2016 1:52 PM CST
John, looking at my plants here, your plant looks like one of mine, I have labeled it then as Aloe-gasteria hybrid, not sure really what it is, my aunt gave it to me in 2010.

Just to give you an idea how my plant grew. I always keep it outdoors here all year long rain or shine, so you can also plan what container you will use as it grows.

In 2010 when I first got it:
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Have repotted it since and this is how it is when it bloomed in Spring 2014:
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Photo today 02Feb2016, it is still in same old oval container, really full already:
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Name: John
Thibodaux, La. (Zone 9a)
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anole
Feb 2, 2016 4:22 PM CST
I may be able to shed some light on the id on my plant, I went to Lowes and found what I think is an identical plant although much smaller. Here is the picture of the smaller plant and the identification label. What do you think? Is the first picture I posted the same plant? thanks for all the help.

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Stush2019
Feb 3, 2016 12:23 PM CST
When it comes to hybrids, throw the book away. Any thing can crop up. I like hybirds better my self. They seem to have more vigor, colors and grow better. Less touchy than the species.
Name: John
Thibodaux, La. (Zone 9a)
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anole
Feb 3, 2016 5:45 PM CST
I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my questions. I have always enjoyed plants and really didn't delve deeper into their traits and such. I have paid much more attention to identification and soil types since joining this forum. Thanks everyone for the help, it is a relief to have a forum to go to and get help, I do have so many questions though......


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Name: tarev
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tarev
Feb 3, 2016 5:51 PM CST
Keep asking them John..we all learn too along the way Smiling

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