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Jan 31, 2016 8:25 AM CST
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I just noticed this morning that my Blue Sennetti plant was dying and had what looks like eggs? all over the leaf. The plant was outside on my deck (along with other plants) all summer and fall and I brought all of them in when the cold weather started. All are doing well (including this one which looked pretty good about a week ago) and I see no evidence of these pests on my other plants (geraniums, and mint). Can anyone tell me what this is? thanks for any help!
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Jan 31, 2016 11:19 AM CST
Name: Heath
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From what I could tell through your picture it looks like they could be aphids if it is aphids some insecticidal soap should do the trick just keep an eye on it and keep reapplying as necessary.
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Jan 31, 2016 1:14 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Yes, they look like aphids. You can wash them off with warm soapy water too. Just make sure the aphids go down the drain or they will crawl right back up onto your plant.
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Jan 31, 2016 1:17 PM CST
Name: tarev
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I agree with both.
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Jan 31, 2016 7:01 PM CST
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Thank-you so much for the responses. That is what I thought also. Unfortunately I had seen the exact same thing in our greenhouses this fall. Arghgh!! And from what I've read it's exacerbated by the fact that we also have ants. We have our work cut out for us. Thanks again everyone.
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Jan 31, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Name: Karen
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I'm battling aphids in my greenhouse right now. I sprayed them off and used soapy water on them. They still were around. Now I have sticky strips meant to catch whiteflies or fungas gnats, and it's catching lots of aphids. Seems like a never ending battle!
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Jan 31, 2016 7:28 PM CST
Name: Heath
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I don't know how true it is but I've heard that they are born pregnant and I can almost believe it Thumbs down
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Jan 31, 2016 8:50 PM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
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Any time you have sucking insects on your plants you may find ants as well.
Scale.Mealy Bug, Spider Mites, Whiteflies etc. are all sucking insects.
Plant juices contain sugars--and the undigested sugars they suck out are excreted by the insects
and drip down on lower leaves, the table the plants are on, and even the floor below forming a sticky surface.
This is called "honeydew" excreted by the insects. Ants are attracted to this honeydew--that is why you are seeing them.

f not attended to--this "honeydew" can start to "age" and it forms a black soot over the lower leaves of your plant.

Keep a sharp eye out for any stickiness on your plant's leaves. A first sign that you have sucking insects
working on your plants.
A good spraying with soap (Not detergent) and water plus a bit of rubbing alcohol--or just Horticultural Soap--should help.
Repeat as needed...every 7-10 days.

Good luck! Gita
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Jan 31, 2016 10:03 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Karen,

Add frogs. I'm serious. I accidently brought Pacific tree frogs from my greenhouse in California when we moved a couple years ago. I had 3 but only one was croaking so I assume one male and two females. They laid eggs. I brought some more eggs from California last spring for genetic diversity. Tree frogs eat aphids and ants and anything else they can get their little mouths around, even crickets. They do not eat mealy bugs. Sad

I never see them unless I accidently wash one out of a pot and they only croak in the spring when looking for love. I don't know how many are in there but the insect problem is a non-problem so a few at least. I suspect some go out the windows in the summer but as Pacific tree frogs live in Reno also, I don't worry about them. They lay their eggs in saucers and the tadpoles live in the saucers until they turn into little tiny frogs. I will let you know how many croakers are out there in March.

This guy was sitting on the wall of my house (inside the greenhouse) in November.

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Jan 31, 2016 10:15 PM CST
Name: tarev
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During better weather outdoors, I put some plants as inbetweeners which aphids hate and will never dare to cross..geraniums. Or I have one plant as my sacrificial plant, my tropical milkweed which attracts aphids like magnets..better that than my other plants. I do try to spray insecticidal soap or do the alcohol swab to my tropical milkweed, but it is always a never ending battle, so I just let them have their way. Eventually cool weather comes and they are gone till next season.
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Feb 1, 2016 4:57 AM CST
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Just to put this into perspective- We have two greenhouses in which we plant right into the ground. Season extenders is what we use them for really. We also have chickens which are housed in one of the greenhouses when the weather gets cold. I noticed this problem that some of you are describing, with the sooty plants and the stickiness last summer in BOTH greenhouses but am only now putting it all together. Didn't know what I was looking at. Now, I do believe we have a big aphid, and ant problem. I can only hope that the chickens will take care of the problem in the one location. And from what I have read I will have to be on guard 24/7 for ants and really be agressive. Take care of that problem first, then tackle the aphids. We grow organically, so that adds another piece to think about. Well, at least I have a few more weeks of winter to think about how to proceed. Tarev, that is interesting about the plants as barriers, because the other plants I had next to the Sennetti were geraniums and none of those looks to be affected. Still can't figure out how the aphids got all over this plant as it has never been in the greenhouse. <le sigh> Thanks all!
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Feb 1, 2016 10:13 AM CST
Name: tarev
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I think the aphids hate the scent or oil in the geraniums, so they don't attack it.
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Feb 1, 2016 11:37 AM CST
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That is interesting to know about the geraniums, Tarev. I will have to move some of my geraniums around. I wish we had frogs, but I haven't seen any. Maybe I can buy them? I'll have to look.
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