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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:04 PM CST
I am grinding up clean no dye and unprinted paper with moss and sand and a spoonful of greensand For starter pots ,, All mixed together

Only a place to start ,, talk about anything your mood to . Smiling
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:11 PM CST
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Are you using this mix for specific plants or is it meant to be a general-purpose starting mix? What kind of moss are you using?
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:17 PM CST
A couple of seed starter mixes from the bags that did not do as well as could of . The mixes seem to need some mineral and water retention assistance Only moss I add is some of the carpet moss around here , the Sphagnum is in the mixes already ,
Meant to be a general purpose use ,
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:23 PM CST
When you said "moss", my brain went right to the green stuff outdoors rather than peat moss. Have you tried using a little bit of vermiculite for water retention? For the longest time, I used to think it was for improving drainage. Boy, was I wrong.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:30 PM CST
There is enough Vermiculite in one of the bags , the green sand helps as might a few additives after some thought ,
The first part of this without the Vermiculite and sand makes good worm bedding with a puree whipped banana peel ,,
That makes a good starter additive after the worms are through
I don't have many for the time being (the worms) . But they will be back munching shortly .
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:31 PM CST
You had to include the banana puree! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:36 PM CST
After a lot of this occurs, it is not a bad additive , I have this nearly a foot long at one side of the house

" The Green stuff "
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I have green carpets "out there" Blinking
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:37 PM CST
I do have a beautiful patch of moss that I actually weed during the growing season. Just never thought of using it as part of a growing meadium.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:41 PM CST
A few seasons ago Mine Bloomed ,,The carpet moss , I keep looking for sets where it grow under and between pots ,
It also makes oxygen like algae does ..

Yes the puree Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! What would a mix be without worms Confused Hilarious! Thumbs up
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 6:02 PM CST
Very interesting about the oxygen. How to utilize that...
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 6:40 PM CST
Have to find an article someplace , Use to have a few ,,
Only a interesting fact to me too I agree
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 6:59 PM CST
Would be interested to hear about it.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Here is one , not super but good , Moss making it's own food and Oxygen ,,

http://home.howstuffworks.com/moss2.htm
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 2, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Let me get this straight in my head. You'll be using dried moss? mixed in the soil? So it's going to be more of a water-holding tool than creating the oxygen (air space) in the soil? Acting sort of like properly dampened peat moss?
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 10:18 AM CST
Sure Cindy , That's what I'm doing , as I have before . Thing is though ,, it will still grow sometimes ,,
Moss driving up the wall ,, lots of this
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In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener Birds
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 10:31 AM CST
Bulb pot sets and Venus Flytrap's might like it as is I don't do that usually , Although I might try some for the Amaryllis mix ?
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 2, 2016 11:34 AM CST
I wonder if you have a different type of moss than I do. Mine's all flat and very short - sort of like indoor/outdoor carpet. Yours looks like it has longer strands.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 11:47 AM CST
I have that in the pot above very short and small . The mature moss that is growing up the Blocks and sides of pots , May be the other referred to as short southern Sphagnum , They grow this near Cicero a great big field of moss for marketing ,,
Not all from Canada ....
A lot of the times they look exactly the same , other times not so much ,, Two types of carpet moss ,
If I feed the moss , the longer type blooms and seeds
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Feb 2, 2016 12:04 PM CST
I ordered some plants from Hirt's Nursery once. They came in tiny cells, like 1.5 inch square by 2 inches deep.

The surface was covered very tightly with moss.

At first I thought it was a cool way to keep potted plants from shedding soil during shipping - the moss held the soil surface together.

Then I realized it was just sloppy: the surface also had strands of grass and weeds in amongst the moss. They had just pulled up clumps of soil with seedlings (or cuttings) from a very unweeded bed and shipped wherever came out.

Plus, they had advertised Lavatera thuringiaca var. 'Barnsley', a valuable "periclinal chimaera" but sent L.thuringiaca var. 'Rosea', the most common and cheapest variety.

Maybe it reverted to the non-chimaera form, but it sure reverted before even one 'Barnsley' flower showed itself.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener Birds
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 12:15 PM CST
I have some of it growing on old carpets ,outdoors , hence possibly ,, Carpet Moss ,, couldn't be , that graphic to name ,,
A good way to grow moss , (this one anyway ) peck it clean . mix it with buttermilk , sweet milk ,, , put a little on a few old cement or asphalt blocks , Put the towel down on the blocks , Dirty it a bit and weight it down slightly ,, poof moss everywhere ,,

What is charged for it is extreme ,,,

Also I dug out a compost bin type worm bin once , covered it with a wooden board cover , Had Giant Sphagnum growing over a foot tall for a while ,, looked like Ferns ,, was cool looking
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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