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Feb 17, 2016 12:26 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
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Ohhhhhh I remember the ruler. But not the soap!

Did you have to kneel on the floor...to prove you skirt was long enough?
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Feb 17, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
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"Tips and tricks s for straw bale gardeners.. Minnesota farm guide. April 2013 "
A decent short article with recommendations for a step by step " how to " book.

This is about right size for me to manage




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Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Feb 18, 2016 5:53 AM CST
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Name: Marilynne Stephenson
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I'm liking the 'trellis' deal ..
GREAT idea for support !

~M~
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Feb 18, 2016 8:03 AM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
It looks manageable for me I think.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Feb 20, 2016 10:33 AM CST
Coldspring, Texas (Zone 8b)
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Regarding the straw bale option, I had heard that there might be herbicide residues on the straw which would introduce chemicals unknowingly into your food. Can anyone confirm this? Confused Confused My focus is continuing to build my soil and keep it "clean".
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Feb 20, 2016 11:00 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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That is a good point!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
Garden Rooms and Becky's Budget Garden
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Feb 20, 2016 11:01 AM CST
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Name: Marilynne Stephenson
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Mine is coming from a farmer I know .. and, is herbicide free ..
I would hope your vendor would be forthcoming with letting you know if it is treated with a herbicide ..

Our soil got a BLAST of NON rotted horse manure a couple of years ago .. sheesh .. the weeds are UNREAL !!!!

~M~
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Apr 10, 2016 7:22 AM CST
Name: Dave KENT
Chesapeake, VA (Zone 1b)
All Bible lessons are in my garden
I first tried straw bales last year to get around a root knot nematode problem in cucurbits. It was immensely successful. So over this winter I advertized on Craigslist wanting cheap/free bales. Found a local indoor dog training facility that uses straw bales for obstacles, they replace them every 30 days from getting peed on. $1 per bale, as many as I want. I'm going big this year with 40 bales. Strawberries, melons, cuckes, tomatoes, peppers, onions, brussels sprouts. Corn, potatoes and beans will remain in the ground.

Things I've learned so far;
1. Be sure composting temps have stabilized before planting. At the end of the recommended 14 days, my internal temp was only 80 degrees, so I assumed that was as good as it was gonna get. I planted 50 strawberry plugs. Two weeks later, the internal bale temp was 140 degrees. Fried plugs. When it dropped back to 80 degrees I replanted; the new ones are doing really well.
2. Stick to sterile soil as an amendment to the bales. Last year I used well composted horse manure and, although it produced great melons and cukes, it completely negated the "weed free" advantage of the whole concept.

BTW, I'm brand new here and grateful to have found this site. I'm once retired as a local police officer and recently followed my wife into a new career as an optician, hence the screen name "coptician". I attended the Chesapeake VA Master Gardeners Program about 8 years ago, but am not currently active. I learned just enough to make me dangerous. I'm looking forward to sharing and learning more here.
Dave
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Apr 10, 2016 9:38 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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coptician1 said:I first tried straw bales last year to get around a root knot nematode problem in cucurbits. It was immensely successful. So over this winter I advertized on Craigslist wanting cheap/free bales. Found a local indoor dog training facility that uses straw bales for obstacles, they replace them every 30 days from getting peed on. $1 per bale, as many as I want. I'm going big this year with 40 bales. Strawberries, melons, cuckes, tomatoes, peppers, onions, brussels sprouts. Corn, potatoes and beans will remain in the ground.

Things I've learned so far;
1. Be sure composting temps have stabilized before planting. At the end of the recommended 14 days, my internal temp was only 80 degrees, so I assumed that was as good as it was gonna get. I planted 50 strawberry plugs. Two weeks later, the internal bale temp was 140 degrees. Fried plugs. When it dropped back to 80 degrees I replanted; the new ones are doing really well.
2. Stick to sterile soil as an amendment to the bales. Last year I used well composted horse manure and, although it produced great melons and cukes, it completely negated the "weed free" advantage of the whole concept.

BTW, I'm brand new here and grateful to have found this site. I'm once retired as a local police officer and recently followed my wife into a new career as an optician, hence the screen name "coptician". I attended the Chesapeake VA Master Gardeners Program about 8 years ago, but am not currently active. I learned just enough to make me dangerous. I'm looking forward to sharing and learning more here.
Dave



Welcome! Welcome! Welcome to ATP. I know you will love it here!

I haven't done straw bale planting but find the idea very interesting. May your veggie garden thrive as I am sure it will. If you like, come join us in the Vegetables And Fruit Forum.
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Apr 10, 2016 10:03 AM CST
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Name: Marilynne Stephenson
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Hi Dave .. welcome ..

Looking out our windows at snow falling, has been since about 6am :-(
Thoughts of gardening are seemingly so far away right now, but, we are going to try it Thumbs up

~M~
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Apr 11, 2016 8:11 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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I have tried the straw bales on and off for several years now .
The only real problem is they seem to take a lot more water than my raised beds.I can not install a drip irrigation tube where the garden is so If I am planning on being gone for any time the bale garden suffers.
The great up side when the bales rot I have lots of fresh compost for the rest of the garden.
I have also just put the bales close together in a place where I wish to create a new garden and by end of season all weeds/grass is dead , I just break the bales and let sit on the space over winter and rake back and plant next spring. A slightly different take on lasagna gardening.
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Apr 11, 2016 8:26 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Great idea!
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Apr 11, 2016 9:34 PM CST
Name: Wes
Ohio (Zone 6a)
Welcome Dave and thanks for the input.

Recent reading and video surfing has me very much interested in trying the straw bales. Lots of mixed info on the web so I'm trying to glean what I can wherever I can. I do have tillable garden space that's been amended but I have Johnson grass that just really takes over by late July. With that said I'm considering "burning" vegetation to the ground with a string trimmer and adding a length (or 2) of biodegradable weed fabric under the bales to try to keep that devil grass from up growing through the bales.

All I'm sure of at this point is that I'm at least going to experiment with straw bale gardening this year. If it's successful for large heirloom tomatoes? Well, my backyard will transform into a green and yellow Disneyland of food. Thinking ahead I could do a miniature "Strawhenge" with rebar out front.

Thinking waay ,waay too far ahead, LOL! I've got tree damage, wild roses, and all sorts of other soon to come misadventures to deal with in these weeks leading up to planting a vegetable garden. And of course paying work that comes first. So fun though. Bought a new blower, spooling the trimmer heads. It's my favorite time of year. New spark plugs and fresh gas to awaken my only helpers. It's fun!

Happy gardening 2016 to all! I'll do ATP blog posts on my straw bale efforts if the thread interest dies off. A few other ATP search results I want to view tonite.
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Apr 21, 2016 8:17 PM CST
Name: Linda Arnold
Idaho Mountains (Zone 4b)
We are trying it for the first time because of nematodes also. They only bother our carrots, causing them to be stunted and deformed. We put heavy black plastic under the bales in case the nematodes could migrate up into the straw. We're crossing our fingers hoping this works.
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Apr 22, 2016 4:45 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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Good luck and keep us posted on your experience Thumbs up
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Apr 22, 2016 8:36 AM CST
Name: Terri
virginia (Zone 7a)
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2ofus said:We are trying it for the first time because of nematodes also. They only bother our carrots, causing them to be stunted and deformed. We put heavy black plastic under the bales in case the nematodes could migrate up into the straw. We're crossing our fingers hoping this works.


Just a heads up the plastic may trap small puddles of water allowing mosquitoes to breed. I had that problem with self watering pots, I had to spray myself down with repellant any time I needed to go near them
Life is a rush into the unknown. You can duck down and hope nothing hits you, or you can stand tall, show it your teeth and say "Dish it up, Baby, and don't skimp on the jalapeƱos."
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Apr 22, 2016 9:16 AM CST
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Name: Marilynne Stephenson
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Thought we were getting closer to the day we could pick up the bales, but, the temps have dropped, once again .. looks to be end of May ..
Short growing season .. but, usually prolific ..

~M~
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Sep 11, 2018 6:43 AM CST

I've been using straw bale for several years now and I have a persistent problem of my tomatoes yellowing. Starts from the bottom and works its way up over time. The tomatoes are very plentiful early but production slows then stops. (I plant in April and now being Sept) They should really be coming in now, out here in Northern California. Over the coarse of the years I've conditioned the bales , watering consistently with timers, fertilizing periodically, 9 hours of direct light, planting regular plants some years and disease resistant plants in other years, which makes no difference, I've used systemic fungicide around the plants or spraying fungicide directly on the plants in some years but it just keeps happening. Something in the bales, I perceive, is happening and I don't have any idea what it is and I have inquired extensively online to find out. Maybe someone has had this problem or knows someone who has and can educate me on this. Even Joel the bale guy who wrote the 1st bale gardening book ( or at least the 1st book I've read about it ) didn't know. All my other plants are doing great. Thanks, Jim
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Jun 21, 2023 4:30 AM CST

I absolutely love straw bale gardening! It has been a game-changer for me in terms of growing my own vegetables even with limited space. The benefits are incredible. Firstly, the straw bales act as a fantastic growing medium, providing excellent drainage while retaining moisture, which means less watering and healthier plants. Secondly, the elevated height of the bales makes it easier on my back and knees, perfect for those with physical limitations. Additionally, the straw bales naturally decompose over time, turning into nutrient-rich compost that enriches the soil. It's an environmentally friendly approach too! For those interested in growing vegetables on straw bale gardening, I highly recommend checking out this informative article on Garden Buddy dot us.
It provides a comprehensive guide on how to get started and maximize your harvest in limited space. Happy gardening!
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Jun 24, 2023 6:11 AM CST

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This is my second year of SBG.
cons: I really should have put a soaker hose on the bales; watering them every day all summer long gets old.

pros: for the first time, we have healthy tomatoe plants -- no blights, viruses...
also, plants are at a great height to tend to
NO WEEDS! That's the best thing ever.
old bales make great mulch

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