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Charleston, SC (Zone 9a)
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DreamOfSpring
Mar 3, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Finally, I just can't take the insanity of 'that other site' anymore, so I'm testing the waters here. This was [close to] the name of my thread series 'elsewhere'. I originally started this series as a place to corral all my OT comments and keep them off of my other threads.

Everyone is welcome. Any subject you wish to discuss is fair game as long as it doesn't violate site rules and as long as we are always respectful of each other. Also, it's ok to have multiple subjects going at once, something I do often.

I'm adding this photo in hopes that it will be shown as the cover photo for the thread.
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Charleston, SC (Zone 9a)
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DreamOfSpring
Mar 3, 2016 8:26 AM CST
Whew! Now I have finally signed up and started my 1st thread here. That's enough for now. I will be back soon to actually post something.:-)
Silver Spring, MD (Zone 7a)
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ssgardener
Mar 3, 2016 8:30 AM CST
Welcome! DreamOfSpring! There are many of us here from "that other site." Whistling Hilarious!
Charleston, SC (Zone 9a)
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DreamOfSpring
Mar 3, 2016 8:40 AM CST
Hi ssgardener!

Thanks very much for the hearty welcome! It's great to see old faces again. I'm feeling a little like a fish out of water for the moment, but I know that will pass soon. Oh, and I have no doubt that I will soon find many of my 'lost' friends here. Last night recent changes created major confusion over there, so I'm guessing there will be a whole new group of 'refugees' on the way. As of this morning, you can no longer find new posts or even entire threads. I'm done with that insanity. But that's all past history for me now. This is a fresh, new start!
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Mar 3, 2016 1:34 PM CST
Welcome!
Name: June
Rosemont, Ont. (Zone 4a)
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JuneOntario
Mar 3, 2016 1:43 PM CST
Hi and Welcome! !
Name: Pat (Backward Glance)
Lucketts, VA
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ecnalg
Mar 3, 2016 6:08 PM CST
Welcome! This is a great place, and wish I'd made the switch even sooner.
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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AnnaZ
Mar 3, 2016 10:35 PM CST
I think they need to take all those IT "experts'' out and shoot them at sunrise. Ok, I suppose that IS a bit harsh. Firing them, no benefits, etc. would work too. What a mess. Almost as bad as Facebook...........everything all over the place. LOL

Boggles what is left of my mind why they had to mess it up SO bad...........and to have the nerve to tell us that it was "tested before being put out there". Har.....................har.....................har........................
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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MISSINGROSIE
Mar 3, 2016 11:47 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome!

I signed up at ATP a while back apparently but did not follow through ..saw all the badges and acorns and jumped to conclusions that it would be too much to read and learn.

But, I am here now and everyone helpful to show 'ropes.' I really can't but can show some string!!

Part of me - perhaps wrong - thinks the IT folks at Internet Brands (DG) may not be all that inept... I think priorities are different from before and host site doesn't want to host chat lines that don't represent revenue... I could be wrong...I been wrong before.

Anyway, we are all dreaming of spring..... You will like it at ATP. Lots of down to earth folks.
Down to earth is good.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Mar 4, 2016 9:20 AM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Mar 4, 2016 9:32 AM CST
Welcome to ATP!
Madison, Alabama (formerly NC)
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stillwood
Mar 5, 2016 4:34 PM CST
Dream. Good to see you here. Now the folks here can learn about Miss Kitty and Widget and the other cat (Coco?). Charlie says hello.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Mar 5, 2016 6:06 PM CST
Hi DreamOfSpring, Welcome! to the ATP Family from me too!

There are many members here who used to be paid subscribers at DG ... some of us still have the same user name that we used over there. I think you will really love ATP, we have such wonderful, kind and caring members ... and no drama as was found quite often at DG. Our administrators here really listen to what we have to say and respond asap when any questions arise. We are FAMILY! Lovey dubby

It sometimes takes awhile to get used to a new site but if this old gal can do it, I know you can too! If you ever have any questions whatsoever, don't hesitate to ask ... we all help each other out here.

Again, Welcome!
Lin
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Charleston, SC (Zone 9a)
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DreamOfSpring
Mar 7, 2016 7:36 PM CST
A Great Big Hug to Everyone! Group hug

Thanks to each and every one of you for your friendly, inclusive, & welcoming posts! Thank you for helping me to feel like a part of the group and like I've been here forever. I do, btw, remember almost all of you. It's great to see so many friendly and familiar faces. In many ways I almost feel more at home here already than I've felt 'there' in ages, mostly since all of you left.

Some of you may not remember me, although I had been over 'there' almost since the very beginning. Right about the time of the 1st big exodus over there, I changed my screen name. Anyone who left in that 1st group wouldn't likely know my new name (this one), not that I was one of the major players anyhow.

Thanks again for the friendly greetings! Thank You!
Madison, Alabama (formerly NC)
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stillwood
Mar 7, 2016 8:17 PM CST
Many folks coming from DG will remember the Heidi tales that Dream told and the raccoon universe she unfolded. Heidi is gone now. The tales are about Widget and Miss Kitty. Just as interesting. I tip my hat to you.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Mar 7, 2016 8:51 PM CST

Plants Admin

I never missed a single post about the raccoon universe. Those were great posts!
Name: Sharon
Calvert City, KY (Zone 7a)
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Sharon
Mar 7, 2016 11:27 PM CST
Me too, Zuzu. Never missed a single post about the Heidi tales or the raccoon universe. I also remember one of the bird tales, the one about gathering hair for a nest.

So glad you're here, Dream!
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Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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MISSINGROSIE
Mar 8, 2016 7:42 AM CST
Oh that one sounds good.
Maybe we can get repeats here?
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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MISSINGROSIE
Mar 8, 2016 12:19 PM CST
I read this today and thought it funny

The iconic entertainer made a wisecrack about the reality star on Twitter Monday (March 7), saying, "Kim Kardashian tweeted a nude selfie today. If Kim wants us to see a part of her we've never seen, she's gonna have to swallow the camera."

What Bette did not know is that Kim K let the camera in to the appointment she had with her gyn. I read that she had an female ultrasound right there on TV ..so that camera was indeed swallowed.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
Charleston, SC (Zone 9a)
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DreamOfSpring
Mar 8, 2016 12:45 PM CST
It is so good to hear that some of you still remember my raccoon (and bird) stories. I do so wish that I could start a new raccoon story. Those were the days. Heidi, the leader of the raccoons and mother or grandmother of most of them, died some years back. I had fed her every evening for years. She had become as much a part of my family as Widget (my dog). I had learned SO much from her over the years and had developed enormous respect for her wisdom and skills. I grieved for some time after her passing, knowing that things would never really be the same without her around.

Every year Heidi would bring her new kits to my home to eat and play. I bought dog toys for them to play with and kept a kiddie pool full of water to keep them entertained while 'mom' ate. The 1st year or so the kits also made a 'fort' out of a couple stacked bales of pine straw I had placed near the pool and a sandbox of sorts out of a nearby compost pile, a play area I came to think of much like the kids area McD's used to have, a place for the kids to play safely nearby while the moms were eating.

Heidi came to trust me a great deal over the years, so much so that she would take treats from my hand and would allow me to play with the tiny babies of which she was otherwise very protective. Because she allowed me to handle the kits while they were so young, they grew up to be very comfortable around me but still knew to fear all other humans, rushing back to the forest at the 1st sound of neighbors outdoors. Each year as the yearlings returned with kits of their own, this bond of trust between us continued to grow. In many ways I became almost accepted as a part of their group, such that they were comfortable just being themselves around me. This allowed me to observe things which people don't normally get to see.

I observed the group very carefully, as I was truly interested in their behavior and their lives, plus I wanted to be able to convey to the readers here at DG what I was seeing. I learned many unique things about their behavior and unraveled some aspects of their day to day lives. It was a most magical time for me. I spent an hour or more sitting out there in the dark with them each night (for years), often with tiny kits standing upright at my knee (paws on my knees at times) and even one climbing in my lap. Sometimes I was completely surrounded in the darkness by 20 or more wild, adult raccoons who were so close they were brushing against me but never aggressive - well, that is, except for Dennis (who turned out to be a Denise) who was always very mischievous and would sometimes try to steel my bag of grapes so she could have them all for herself.

Over the years I learned some of their 'language'. I developed the ability to recognize each individual as easily as we recognize other humans. Out of what had at 1st seemed like a bunch of carbon copy animals with the exact same coat emerged over time a myriad of diverse shades and styles, from Reba with her rich auburn stripes to Diva with her long, luxurious 'mink' coat and Bast with the short cropped, taupe colored fur and long sleek cat-like form. Suddenly, it seemed almost impossible to think that I had ever had difficulty distinguishing between them. And each had her own distinct personality, from the timid Fraidy to the ever mischievous Dennis and the huge but incredibly gentle HRH, the only adult male ever allowed at the Raccoon Buffet.

After something like 8yrs of coming to my house every night to eat, missing only a night or two each year when giving birth, one night Heidi showed up with a strange behavior which I immediately knew to be a very bad omen. As she ate that night, she kept moving her hips/abdomen in a strange and very slow repetitive pattern. I didn't know why, but as I watched her I had a very bad feeling about it. That evening I reached out to pet her for the very 1st time ever, and she offered no resistance at all. She didn't even tense her muscles in response to my touch. She had come to trust me that much.

She didn't eat as much as normal that night. She would nibble a little and stop to sit a while before nibbling some more. When she left that evening, I never saw her again. Every night for weeks, months even, I rushed out in hopes that she would be there, but she never came again. I still remember her fondly. I like to think that I brought even a portion as much good into her life as she did mine.

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