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Mar 14, 2016 4:39 PM CST
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Oh, almost forgot to add this. Someone, Billy maybe, mentioned predators such as owls and coyotes recently when discussing my cats being out of doors. We don't have coyotes here. Never seen one in my entire life, nor have I heard of anyone else seeing one here. We don't have many of the animals folks elsewhere mention. No ground hogs, no prairie dogs, no wolves, no bears, no mountain lions. There are some other small animals (cute ones, squirrel size) that people mention a lot. Don't recall the names of these animals now, but we don't have them either. We mostly just have grey squirrels, deer, wild cats, rabbits, mice, rats, opossums, & raccoons.

We do have wild bores in the forests here, although very rarely encountered; I've never actually seen one of them either but have heard of them. Probably the biggest predator we have around here is the alligator. We have lots of them even here in the city (and even in my very neighborhood), and they would enjoy a nice snack, but the cats are pretty safe as long as they stay away from the ponds (and since cats hate water...).

One thing I may have failed to mention is that my backyard is enclosed with a 6ft privacy fence which helps to keep many types of critters out. These days the cats spend most of their time lying around in the backyard. I gather Ms Kitty does find the privacy fence helpful, because even years ago when she was wild and before I even realized she was back there, she had her kittens stashed back there under a thicket of prostrate rosemary up against the back fence corner. My [then] gardener found them [the feral kittens] back there one day and wanted to get rid of them. I told him to leave them alone and not work in that corner of the yard. I also had a mother rabbit and her babies living in my backyard garden for years, so I figure small animals do find it a safe environment.

We do have owls, of course, and in the past I have even heard an owl hooting in the forest behind my house; however, my backyard has a lot of plants, flowers, small trees, and shrubs in a sort of cottage garden type configuration with meandering paths. The plethora of plants and shrubs provide lots of quick access to hiding places and the small trees make it hard for large birds to fly around in the backyard to grab prey. Cocoa, the male and only surviving kitten, is now some 14lbs, so I figure he is probably too heavy for an owl to carry anyhow.

Ms Kitty is small, only 5-6lbs, but she managed to survive outdoors completely on her own for years, so I know she is plenty street smart. I doubt if an owl would try to grab a healthy adult cat, anyhow. Predators have to be careful not to get injured, because an injured predator is a dead predator (no way to hunt for food). Predators seek the very young, very old, and sick/injured not just because they are easier but also because they tend to be safer.

Ms Kitty would like to come back inside where she can hide out in a cozy corner and/or hop up on my drier to sleep on fresh laundry, and I may let her in again eventually, but I know she is plenty safe in the backyard - although the rest of nature may not be.
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Mar 14, 2016 4:47 PM CST
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MissingRosie,

Your weather sounds nice. We had a very nice, very mild winter this year with many nice days in Feb, but it looks like we may be gearing up for a HOT summer, considering how warm it is here already. Mosquitoes. Ugh! And this far south, I fear we could even end up with Zika here before it is over, since we are already home to the mosquito that carries it. Yep. I keep all manner of mosquito repellent on a baker's rack by the back door. In mid to late summer, I usually can't even go out to pick a cucumber w/o getting bitten, so I'm armed.
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Mar 14, 2016 4:54 PM CST
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June,

Your response made me laugh! I guess between the rising water here along the coast and the rising temps and resultant threat of ever more powerful hurricanes, I need to start thinking about moving north. Alaska might be very nice in another decade. Maybe I should buy some land up there now while it's still relatively inexpensive. Alaska might be the new Miami in a decade or two. Rolling on the floor laughing

Glad to hear that you are enjoying nice weather. (It's very hard for me to wrap my head around Mar snow measured in feet though.)
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Mar 14, 2016 5:00 PM CST
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I also forgot to wish everyone a Happy Pi Day!

Yes, it's Pi Day today. You remember Pi, right? 3.14159 and so on and so on, ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter. Yes, that pi, however, in honor of Pi Day (3/14) many restaurants are offering discounts on the other pie, both the sweet kind and the pizza kind!
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Mar 14, 2016 6:06 PM CST
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A cottage garden offers great protection for cats and other cat-sized creatures.

My garden's full of cats by day and skunks, possums, and raccoons by night. Most of the cats are indoor-outdoor, but some of the rescued ferals prefer to live only outside. When I feed them their dinner on the porch, the skunks and possums eat with the cats, often out of the same dishes at the same time. The raccoons hang back and wait politely for the leftovers. There has never been a fight.
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Mar 14, 2016 6:20 PM CST
Name: Rosie
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DreamOfSpring said:MissingRosie,

Your weather sounds nice. We had a very nice, very mild winter this year with many nice days in Feb, but it looks like we may be gearing up for a HOT summer, considering how warm it is here already. Mosquitoes. Ugh! And this far south, I fear we could even end up with Zika here before it is over, since we are already home to the mosquito that carries it. Yep. I keep all manner of mosquito repellent on a baker's rack by the back door. In mid to late summer, I usually can't even go out to pick a cucumber w/o getting bitten, so I'm armed.


I have that rack too!! ( only mine is a recycled cupboard) Yard Guard...indoor fogger, cutters spray, cutters towelettes, the small wearable fan with the mosquito repellent, citronella candles, but nothing works as well as staying indoors with the latches bolted!
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Mar 14, 2016 7:08 PM CST
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Dream, land around here (I'm about 50 miles due north of Toronto international airport) is still reasonably priced. You are welcome to move to this neighborhood, but I should warn you that as well as mosquitoes (big ones) we have blackflies and deerflies that will take a bite out of anything living. No alligators, I'm glad to say, but I do have snapping turtles in my pond, and coyotes in the woods.
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Mar 15, 2016 5:42 AM CST
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Dream,
It's funny how some places have all kinds of wildlife and others don't. We do have coyote and an occasional cougar sighting, but usually not near us. I have an occasional groundhog that passes thru, lol!
Tall fences are nice! Your cats are pretty safe.
Um, an owl can carry a raccoon off, but I think cats learn early on what an owl hoot is and to hide.
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Mar 15, 2016 6:45 AM CST
Name: Rosie
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It amazes me that parts of the US have no mosquitos. Can you imagine?
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Mar 15, 2016 6:53 AM CST

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Really? WHERE????
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Mar 15, 2016 7:48 AM CST
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ROTF, DutchLady!

I was going to ask that very same question!
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Mar 15, 2016 8:09 AM CST
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billyporter,

Wow, I had no idea owls could lift that much weight. As for small animals, over the years I've 'listened' online as so many people talked about small creatures that are common to states all around here, and yet we don't have them. Out of curiosity, I even checked the range of some of those animals and, sure enough, we are not in their range. Often their range may include most of SC but not the immediate coastline. I think it might have to do with this being largely coastal habitat, wetlands, marshes, and sandy beach soil which may not be to the liking of some creatures. Also it may be too warm and humid here on the coast.
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Mar 15, 2016 8:46 AM CST
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Just realized. It's low (sea level) and wet here with soil that is too damp and soft to safely support basements, underground shelters, and even tall buildings (more than about 10 stories). That is probably why we don't have ground hogs and other small animals that build underground. With 52 or more inches of rain each year (80 last year), they might well drown here.
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Mar 15, 2016 9:03 AM CST
Name: Rosie
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Dutchlady1 said:Really? WHERE????

Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

There was a person on DG who said she had no mosquitos .. No kidding. I can't tell you who or where...but it was out west..pretty sure of that.. However, I recall there was some mention of spiders big enogh to swallow a car.

I have read where folks have said that since moving to places..( Vegas, parts of California ) that it has been 10 years or longer since they have been bit.

Mosquitos can't live above 10,000 feet so I would think any community that meets the criteria.. Colorado??
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Mar 15, 2016 9:12 AM CST
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Thank You! June,

Thanks for that warm invitation! We have some mean snapping turtle here, too, and vicious deer flies. We also have huge horseflies that bite, but I've never heard of blackflies. I don't know if I could get used to the cold and the snow and ice though. I've been down here in the south all my life. We only get a tiny dusting of snow about once every decade, enough so it looks like powdered sugar on a cake or doughnut, and when that happens we close all of the schools, government offices, and businesses, roll up the streets, and close the city.

A tourist from the UK was here a couple yrs ago when we closed the city (yes, I'm really serious) due to a millimeter of ice; he was walking around all alone in the [totally deserted] tourist area downtown trying to figure out where everyone had gone, when a local news crew doing stories about the 'brutal' weather stopped to interview him. The expression on that guys face was priceless as he pondered how a tiny sliver of ice could result in the total absence of human activity anywhere in the city. Just to give you a true picture of that event, the low that night was in the 20'sF. Yes, that's plus 20'sF not negative. I guess you could say we are cold weather wimps. Rolling on the floor laughing

But if it warms up a bit, hmm, your area is quite lovely and might be just perfect.
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Mar 15, 2016 9:20 AM CST
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Hmm, Rosie,

I'm not sure if I can live at 10k ft either for that matter! I've spent my whole life way down here at sea level where there is ample oxygen. Spiders the size of cars? Oh, now I know I'm not going. Then again...scientists are now saying the most dangerous animal on the planet, the animal responsible for the most human suffering & death, is ... wait for it... the mosquito! Seems like we might be scared of all the wrong things. Mosquitoes have apparently killed more people than lions, bears, sharks, & snakes combined.
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Mar 15, 2016 9:26 AM CST
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Mar 15, 2016 9:45 AM CST
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Oooh, SongOfJoy,

Love that Helen Keller quote!

Thanks for the interesting link. Looks like mosquitoes shy away from remote places.

Antarctica? Whew! I don't think that is open for real estate, mostly just for scientists and research. The company I worked for for some 15yrs has had a group in Antarctica for years now. They switch people in and out every 6mo or so for those who don't want to stay longer. Many people see it as an adventure, but I don't think I would want to be marooned there for 6mo, especially in the colder part of the year, when it is literally impossible to leave.
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Mar 15, 2016 10:04 AM CST
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Now I have a few questions for you guys:

(1) I tried to load a photo (like all of you seem to have), but I still seem to have the acorn pic. Confused Why is that? Is the acorn pic some kind of warning badge, so everyone knows I'm new & to keep a certain distance since I might still have cooties from other sites? Smiling

(2) Thanks to all those who gave me the thumbs up. I was surprised just now to notice that my profile actually tracks my counts for both T.U. given and received. What's up with that? Is that number ever used for anything. I'm still finding my way around and haven't felt outgoing enough to give any thumbs yet, but that '0' for thumbs given looks awfully lonely, so can someone please explain this aspect of the system, so I don't commit any social faux pas. Confused

(3) I'm a little confused about acorns, too. If they are valuable site currency and desirable to have, why are people giving them away in a seemingly casual manner, like kudos for pics and other things they like? Isn't that kind of like walking around passing out money in lieu of complements? Or am I as confused as I look?

Thanks in advance for your efforts to straighten me out! Big Grin
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Mar 15, 2016 10:06 AM CST
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Life w/o mosquitoes?? Nope, can't even go there in my mind. Afraid I might get too giddy and just float away or explode or something. Sighing!

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