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Mar 11, 2016 3:40 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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Nice clean beds, 843rphyllis!

I never aspired to grow bog plants, leeks or potatoes, but now I know I have the option.
My ambitions have not risen above Brassicas, lettuce, beans and snap peas yet.

One previous neighbor knew what to do with her "boggy spot": planted rhubarb.
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Mar 11, 2016 3:45 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
Not all who wander are lost
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My personal pick would be American Pitchers (Sarracenia) and water cress.
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Apr 25, 2016 2:16 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
I believe I need raised beds since I have nasty clay soil, but I have no idea how I, by myself, could construct one. Could cinder blocks straight on the ground with paper bags covering the current sod work??
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Apr 25, 2016 3:29 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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I am building a raised bed using concrete wall blocks. They have a small lip on the back edge so each brick grabs the block below it. It helps to dig in the first row of brick a couple inches into the soil to hold that row in place. Then build on top, staggering each brick so they aren't sitting squarely on top of the one below. It will look like this when its done but not so tall.

https://www.google.com/search?...

The bricks come in all sizes - I chose small ones that I could easily pick up and build with by myself.

Spray the sod with roundup and build away. If you make your raised bed over a foot deep, whatever grass is left will be discouraged from growing that far. Unless you have burmuda or crabgrass....

Daisy
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Apr 25, 2016 4:39 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Barbalee said:I believe I need raised beds since I have nasty clay soil, but I have no idea how I, by myself, could construct one. Could cinder blocks straight on the ground with paper bags covering the current sod work??


Definitely. Many people use corrugated cardboard to cover sod - they say "it brings the worms". Me, I don't know.

I'd rather swing a mattock to chop the sod, and mix in crushed stone and bark to jump-start aeration into the root-zone-below-the-"raised"-bed. That way I have a raised bed whose root zone is encouraged to gradually enter and break up the clay below the raised part of the bed.

Cinder blocks will be very stable, but they are somewhat expensive and heavy. I find "paver stones" set on end to be lighter and cheaper (but my tallest wall is 18", since I can't stack paver stones on end:


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Often the same spot looks very different in different photos. I like that about the paving stones: they are easier to move around than living room furniture. Every time I get a whim, I adjust where one bed ends and the next begins, or where the "sidewalk" is, or how high the walls are.

And I seldom "tidy" the walls, so each stone leans at a different angle. Those can be tidied up to lean at the same angle, but I seldom bother.
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Apr 25, 2016 5:30 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Thank you, Daisy and Rick!! You've both given me some great ideas. I like that either can be used to create curved beds AND I'll be able to do it myself instead of hiring a "landscaper." Bless you both!
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Apr 25, 2016 7:32 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
Not all who wander are lost
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Happy Building!

By the way, what kind of intriguing flower do you have as your avatar?

Daisy
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Apr 25, 2016 7:58 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
It's a coreopsis known as "Tiger Stripes." I've just planted it, and I hope to see the same thing when the baby is grown!
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Apr 25, 2016 8:00 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Best of luck to you, Barbalee!
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Apr 25, 2016 8:25 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Thanks, Rick!
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Apr 25, 2016 8:43 PM CST
Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
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Barbalee, why don't you use like mine (concrete retaining wall block) http://www.lowes.com/pd_101534...
You just have to dig a little bit and add some dirt mix with sand under the block...and it's perfect...
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Apr 25, 2016 8:51 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Oooh, those are pretty! What kind of sand did you use? How deep did you have to dig? How high is your wall? Tell me more!
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Apr 26, 2016 9:07 AM CST
Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
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The sand I got is from Home Depot calls Quickrete All Purpose Sand comes in 60 lbs bag, I think I add 4 of those in my bed...
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Apr 26, 2016 9:46 AM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Ah ha! Thank you javaMom!!
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Apr 26, 2016 12:47 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Those retaining wall blocks are THE classic thing to use for a stable and permanent retaining wall. Since they never budge, they are always tidy (no "straightening them up".)

I think they are heavier than I need for my little 8"-16" above-ground semi-raised beds. Instead of putting 10-15 in the trunk of my car, my suspe4nsion might only be happy with 4-5. And I can easily carry 1-3 of my little pavers, in my arms. Those "real" blocks look like I would struggle with just one.

Maybe over ten years, my little leaners would bow outwards and NEED to be tweaked back into alignment (like by shoveling a little soil away from the inner edge of each, and leaning it 15 degrees "IN", instead of a random amount "OUT". But over those ten years, I expect to have fiddled with them 2-5 times, re-aligning as needed.

Also, in my yard, it's a big deal that the "real" retaining wall blocks are 6-8" deep. That takes up a whole square foot of bed space for every 1.5 feet or two feet of wall length. When I use my concrete-paving-stones-stood-on-end, I save all but 3/4" or 1" of that 6-8" wall width.

My yard is tiny and my scattered beds are even tinier. Every square foot that gets sun is precious!
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Apr 26, 2016 1:04 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Hmmm, Rick, that's good thinking. I'm going to have to do some measuring and planning before I decide.... Thanks!
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Apr 29, 2016 6:40 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I think most of us have things in the back of our minds we would like to do if money and labor were not limiting factors.
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Apr 29, 2016 7:42 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
After my gardening adventures this spring, I sure don't have any money or enough labor to do the things I want to do around here :-)! With a new home and coming back the US, my wish book is totally full!
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