Plant Database forum: Parent plant request

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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Mar 14, 2016 1:51 PM CST
for Graptosedum please. Or would a Grapto- parent be possible? Which could include Graptoveria, Graptosedum, Graptopetalum. TYVM for your wise consideration!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 14, 2016 2:15 PM CST
Interested in seeing how this will be done. I do think it would be great to have a Parent Plant entry for these great succulents.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 14, 2016 2:42 PM CST
Can you take a close up photo of the plant?
What a wonderful sight it would be to see my lawn bloom like that.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 15, 2016 8:58 AM CST

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We now have genus level entries for
Leatherpetal (Graptopetalum)
XGraptophytum
XGraptosedum
XGraptoveria

I'll look into creating a Graptos custom database.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 15, 2016 9:26 AM CST
Thank you so much Evan.
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eclayne
Mar 15, 2016 10:04 AM CST

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My pleaure
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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 15, 2016 11:59 AM CST
Thanks so much!
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 26, 2016 9:16 AM CST

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Since common name(s) and data that occur on the Parent Plant page are copied to all other entries:
Does Leatherpetal apply to all of them?
What data points apply to all?
What would you like to name this custom database?
Are there any other genera you would like included?

Included genera:
Graptopetalum
XGraptophytum (Graptopetalum x Pachyphytum)
XGraptosedum (Graptopetalum x Sedum)
XGraptoveria (Graptopetalum x Echeveria)

Genera involved:
Leatherpetal (Graptopetalum)
Genus Pachyphytum
Sedums (Sedum)
Echeverias (Echeveria)
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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Mar 26, 2016 4:19 PM CST
Good questions! I hope someone who has answers to them will help out. I've only scratched the surface by having 1 or 2 of these Grapto- plants. Maybe @Baja_Costero
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Mar 26, 2016 4:30 PM CST
I'm familiar with Echeverias and their hybrids, much less so with the other plants. Presumably the hybrids in question would be

Cactus/Succulent
Perennial
Xeriscapic
Needs excellent drainage in pots

as a starting point anyway. Most of the genera involved are Mexican members of the succulent Crassulaceae (roughly, ranging from the SW US through Central America) and that would be the thing that they share in common.

While we're at it, I'm going to propose a modification to the Echeveria parent listing to remove these two features (true of some but definitely not all members of the genus).

Good fall color
Unusual foliage color
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